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July 08, 2005

What they really think...



Via K-Lo at The Corner

How can something be totally not surprising yet make your jaw drop at the same time? I've still not figured that out. I mean - of course that's what they believe. But the in-your-face contempt for the idea of encouraging teens and young adults to wait is still..shocking.

But there you have it (and more, of course, if you are a regular at Dawn Eden's place and follow her detailing of Planned Parenthood's age-old and continuing war against real health for young people)

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Look on the bright side.

The purple gender symbols in the top left are a man and a woman. So GLAAD or HRC probably think they've been screwed.

Posted by: Victor Morton at Jul 8, 2005 10:35:28 PM

This is evil. Truly demonic. I know that sounds over-the-top, but...

So much for ever giving the other side of the aisle the benefit of the doubt. Just pure, unadulterated evil.

Pray for these people.

Posted by: Dorian Speed at Jul 8, 2005 11:05:55 PM

Good Lord! Why are these people so threatened by opposing ideas? Their lack of tolerance for opinions other than theirs is amazing.
I agree with prayer, Dorian.

Posted by: Lynn at Jul 8, 2005 11:33:25 PM

I had an odd thought just now.

Today I learned that a guy who was my first roommate when I moved to Washington back in 1992, Steve, died in his sleep last night. He was 37 years old. It appears that he had a heart attack brought on by an infection in his mouth, from which bacteria somehow got into his bloodstream and lodged in his heart. I hadn't been in touch with Steve in 12 years, after he skipped town owing me a lot of money, and leaving me hanging on our lease. Steve went on to use and hurt people, or so word got back to me.

I do hope he finally grew up and straightened out, but the prospect that he did not is, frankly, terrifying. Steve was all about living for the moment and its pleasure. When he went to sleep last night, he had no way of knowing that he would wake up in eternity. None of us do. We have to repent now, while we still have time.

The reason I bring his case up here is because on our street, a few blocks down from the apartment Steve and I shared, lived Kate Michelman of NARAL. I remember passing her on the street one day. I was startled to see her, and I remember being struck by how tense and brittle she seemed, just at a glance. I'm thinking, What if Kate Michelman dies in her sleep tonight -- what will she carry with her into eternity? She has done so much to advance the cause of evil, yet when I think of her like this, having to account for advancing the cause of the murder of unborn children, I find it hard to hate her, and instead just want to pray that she will repent. And all those who march under her baleful banner.

Posted by: Rod Dreher at Jul 8, 2005 11:39:38 PM

Let's hear it for the Dodo Sisterhood!

These women are an embarrassment to the gender.

Posted by: midwestmom at Jul 8, 2005 11:55:43 PM

Rod,

It is impossible for me to see them changing their minds. Everyone I've met who wickedly embraces self-fulfilment as one's highest goal never changes their mind, and in fact, they learn to destroy people who try to live for others. They know the battlefield more than anyone. It is impossible for me to believe that they'll change their mind, because they never do. And so I have to pray for them, because only a miracle will make a difference.

Posted by: Sydney Carton at Jul 9, 2005 12:08:31 AM

And yet we are the intollerant ones because we can't "see their side of the argument".

Sigh.

It just makes me so tired.

Posted by: Maggie at Jul 9, 2005 12:09:15 AM

We commend Steve to God's mercy. May he rest in peace.

Posted by: Lynn at Jul 9, 2005 12:35:18 AM

If you didn't check out the NARAL website, they do have a disclaimer that the party is "not an all ages event, you must be 21 years or older to attend"
I am kind of surprised that an organization that campaigns against parental notification for abortions is worried about a minimum age to play with the "adult" toys.

Posted by: ambrose at Jul 9, 2005 12:55:15 AM

Once you have a group that is dedicated to maintaining legal open season on children in the womb, absolutely anything evil they do or support should really come as no surprise. I will include them in my prayers today, they certainly need all the prayers they can get.

Posted by: Donald R. McClarey at Jul 9, 2005 6:10:42 AM

In a way we should be grateful NARAL is this openly contemptuous of any group who disagrees with them. A sure sign of fanatcism run amok.

(I suggest immediate screen capture--they may pull this stuff down soon and deny it ever happened someday.)

Posted by: John Farrell at Jul 9, 2005 6:24:32 AM

I went to the NARAL website and read 3 of the personal stories. In two of them, "choice" did not even consider placing the infant for adoption.

The third story was about how a relative's husband forced her to have an illegal abortion and how happy they are that abortions are legal now. NOT a word against the husband or that if happened now, to support the relative having the choice of going through with the pregnancy.

Posted by: Mary Kay at Jul 9, 2005 7:58:09 AM

They're so belligerent. So snarly.

Many years ago, I worked on an HHS project. I used to staff the program's booth at health conferences, mostly medical association annual meetings. Well, I was once sent to this "women's health" conference, and it was...what can I say, horrible.

Conference attendees were given color coded name tags based on a voluntary questionaire that identified your HIV status, sexual preference, and marital status. Because I worked a booth my name tag didn't have any colors. As a result, for two long days angry womyn would ask me what my "status" was.

Still, I didn't have it as bad as the man next me. Straight, married, former OB-GYN, now selling medical equipment, he was bombarded with all that feminista "good will."

We and few other vendors stuck together through the two and half days. Five normal people in an environment pulsing with ill will.

Guaranteed. No sex went on at that party in Seattle. Just a bunch of aging angry womyn who need prayers more than sneers.

Posted by: TheLeague at Jul 9, 2005 7:59:37 AM

I knew I shouldn't have clicked. Now I have a stomach ache. May God have mercy on their souls!

Posted by: Danielle at Jul 9, 2005 8:40:31 AM

The connection between a contempt for abstinence and a contempt for life is well noted. Once sex is nothing more than a means for pleasure, divorced from motherhood, then it matters not who has it. If it matters not who has it, then it matters not whether children are conceived. If children have no logical relationship to sex, then they can be discarded as they come, since they're intruders into our pleasure. Since we don't want to sully our pleasure with children, we can start manufacturing them artificially. And since they aren't the fruit of our wombs, but the fruit of our wills, we can tweak them genetically and get the baby we want want.

Welcome to the Brave New World. I agree Dorian, this is truly demonic.

Posted by: Jason at Jul 9, 2005 9:49:42 AM

You're right Amy. I would have expected this from NARAL, but none the less, my jaw hit the floor when I saw it.

Posted by: Kathleen at Jul 9, 2005 10:24:38 AM

As Chris Rock put it so eloquently: "I love going to an abortion rally to pick up women, cause you know they are f*!@*%g."

Posted by: Cornelius AMDG at Jul 9, 2005 10:47:32 AM

I realize that it is not popular, and that probably some commentors will beat me up, but I really think that Hell is going to end up with more people than the popular estimate of zero or one or two souls.

I really think that since the 19070's the Protestant soteriology of "assurance of salvation," and the Catholic pop theology about "God is love; we cannot judge; we cannot know" have combined to really nullify any serious consideration of (1) man's free will and responsibility and (2) God as Judge in addition to being Love.

Also, I think the loss of Hell as something to be believed in as a destination for a significant number of human souls has a lot to do with "youthful theology." The young can hardly comprehend death, let alone eternal judgement. Surely God will forgive and forget even the most evil people, at that last moment, somehow. And our society is in love with youthful perspectives.

But as one gets older, one sees that human being can live a life of unrepentant sin, a live of consistently making a choice to turn their back on God and pursue their lusts, the appetites, and using and damaging others in the process.

With age, you can begin to see how people could really end up making a choice to be in hell, to be away from God, and sticking to their path, exclaiming "God be damned," to their end.

It is no mistake that the very first of the Psalms talks about two paths. And that through the Psalms the theme comes up again and again of "almost leaving the path of life," and praying that God would show us His path that we could walk in it.

Especially as we get older, as the possiblity our mortality and eventual judgement dawn on us, these choices become more definite, more willful, more intentional, not just the "oopps!" mistakes of youth and inexperience. No, especially as one gets older, one can see the work of the human will, consequences be damned.

Posted by: Zhou at Jul 9, 2005 12:01:40 PM

Interesting vignette, Rod. I agree Kate M. is tense and brittle and, I would add, she shows traces of vulnerability as though she can't believe she has gotten over on society and expects it all to end at any moment. This is why she is constantly in crisis mode - and for fundraising.
But, Rod, when you say you "just want to pray that she will repent" you presuppose that she believes in a God who expects something from her and to Whom she could repent. She doesn't believe in God. They are the stereotypical "Godless atheist" deconstructionists marching under the NARAL flag but it would have been the red flag when Emma Goldman was around and the Jacobin flag during the French Revolution.

Posted by: Linda at Jul 9, 2005 12:13:58 PM

I agree with Amy's sentiment. Hardly surprising, and yet, this open acceptance of their evil intentions did made my jaw drop. Holy Mary, pray for us!

Posted by: Veronica at Jul 9, 2005 3:26:11 PM

"It is impossible for me to see them changing their minds. . . . It is impossible for me to believe that they'll change their mind, because they never do. And so I have to pray for them, because only a miracle will make a difference."

I think you are wrong, Mr. Carton. I believe that they will change their minds. Not all of them, to be sure, but many will be converted. We cannot win this fight with pro-lifers alone. We can only win, and we will win, of that I am sure, when those who today call themselves pro-choice demand the end of abortion. They will be converted, and as with most converts, they will be all the more zealous, and will see the horrific damage that this lie has caused. The pro-choicers will see the abortionists for the killers that they are, for the malicious, anti-woman monsters that they are, and these pro-choicers will be the ones to finally kill legalized abortion.

Remember, it wasn't the original handful of believers 2,000 years ago that brought Christ to the world. It was the hated and despised pagans, the Romans, the very ones who crucified Jesus and Peter and slaughtered so many martyrs, it was they who were converted and spread the faith to the world. So, too, shall it be with the pro-choicers. They will win the abortion war -- and they will win it for the pro-life cause.

Posted by: Mark at Jul 9, 2005 6:30:22 PM

I pray that you are right, Mark. I do believe that truth will triumph eventually, by the Grace of God.

Posted by: Lynn at Jul 9, 2005 6:38:02 PM

Terrific comment, Mark. I am one of those former pro-choice people who is now solidly pro-life. What happened? I read Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, and realized that in drafting those opinions, the Supreme Court threw out precedent, logic, and any acknowledgement of the baby's rights; and I found a priest (conservative Episcopalian, no less!) who finally got the Gospel through my thick skull. Legal and moral realizations that made me totally rethink my view.

It is possible to get through to more people; you just have to destroy the facade of sex as the cure-all for personal fulfillment. Once you remove that mantle, the house of cards falls. Let's pray that more and more people will "get it."

Posted by: Jeff at Jul 9, 2005 7:08:06 PM

Terrific comment, Mark. I am one of those former pro-choice people who is now solidly pro-life. What happened? I read Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, and realized that in drafting those opinions, the Supreme Court threw out precedent, logic, and any acknowledgement of the baby's rights; and I found a priest (conservative Episcopalian, no less!) who finally got the Gospel through my thick skull. Legal and moral realizations that made me totally rethink my view.

It is possible to get through to more people; you just have to destroy the facade of sex as the cure-all for personal fulfillment. Once you remove that mantle, the house of cards falls. Let's pray that more and more people will "get it."

Posted by: Jeff at Jul 9, 2005 7:08:06 PM

"I pray that you are right, Mark. I do believe that truth will triumph eventually, by the Grace of God."

You are right Mark! My wife was "pro-choice" when we were dating. Her commitment to the pro-life cause now puts my own to shame. I constantly encounter in my duties as Chairman of the Board of Directors of our local crisis pregnancy center dedicated volunteers who were one time "pro-choice". Conversion happens frequently and, except in the case of a few ambitious politicians who were never really with us, tends to be overwhelmingly in our direction.

Posted by: Donald R. McClarey at Jul 9, 2005 7:36:24 PM

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