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I suppose I'm late in commenting on this, but Katelyn Sills, a 15 year old girl attending Loretto High School (a Catholic school) who exposed to her Bishop a teacher who was eventually fired for aiding and abetting abortion, has been expelled. [Read More]

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Father Ethan

I don't understand. The parents caught on camera the music teacher working for Planned Parenthood and the teacher was fired. Then they expell their daughter from school. Can the bishop stop them? This is unjust.

Charles R. Williams

This is not a diocesan high school. My guess is that while the administration wants to maintain its Catholic status enough to comply formally with an order from the bishop. They wish to get rid of the student who blew the whistle on the teacher. This makes it clear which side the administration is truly on.

Anonymous Teacher Person

I would conjecture that she is being expelled due to her blogging about it, not due to her family's actions in alerting the school to the Planned Parenthood escort in their midst. This seems related to the earlier discussion about the school that instructed students to not blog about the school or any other personal information.

jane

The adminstration should have given her kudos for her courage to defend life. They should have thanked her for making them aware of the disgrace. They should have apologized to the parents of teh whole school for the situation.

Apparently not on this side of heaven.

Karen LH

It's hard to see how Katelyn can be faulted for her blogging about this situation, unless the school already had a policy in place. Possibly she was burning up the Internet elsewhere, but her posts on her own blog were quite light. She had one post on the subject before the Bee identified her family, one after to clarify the situation and defend her family's actions (which she had the right to do), and a couple after that to status the situation. All throughout, she seemed very respectful, polite, and articulate.

Perhaps in retrospect, she could have closed down the comment boxes, as Amy does sometimes, but (1) she's a teenager and (2) most of the comments, at least initially, were criticizing her, not the school.

I understand the school being concerned about the bad publicity, but it seems to me that they are the ones who allowed the situation to spin out of control, first of all by hiring Ms. Bain in the first place, and secondly by making it pretty clear that they were only terminating her under duress.

It seems as if the school (and some of the comments on her blog supporting it) think that Katelyn should have put Loretto's reputation above her family's and above the Church. It also seems as if the school is treating its students like employees. This is wrong. The school works for (1) the Church and (2) the parents. Do any schools understand that?

JC

People (whichever "side" they're on") keep taking the school's "indepdent" status too literally. Really, being "indepdent" only means that a school was started by a religious order or lay group, and not directly started by the diocese. As soon as the school gets "Catholic" status, it's subject to the bishop.

As for if her blogging was the cause, talk about heads in the sand. Disgruntled parents
don't bad-mouth the school to anyone who'll hear, anyway.
What happened to, "A person's private activities have nothing to do with school?"

Rick Lugari

The school is run by the IBVM nuns. The same order that adopted Sister Jeannine Gramick. I think that speaks volumes.

Donald R. McClarey

It will be interesting to read the alleged grounds for the expulsion if any are offered. On the face of it, it certainly looks like payback for a family that was simply trying to uphold a basic teaching of the Church.

Colleen

Imagine having to deal with this whole thing at her age.

I recall when my daughter's freshman religion teacher mentioned teaching the rosary and I sent him 100 rosaries - I thought my daughter was going to have a fit! Most high school kids do NOTHING to differenciate themselves from the crowd.

Seems to me Katelyn has shown grace under fire and a maturity well beyond her years.

Bob L.

Will the Sacramento Bee publish the news of this explusion as it did the firing of the teacher? If they do, will the young Miss Katelyn Sills get the same sympathetic treatment Bain got?

Dmitri

Let no one forget that we are in the midst of a cosmic war between good and evil. In any war, battles are won and battles are lost. On the surface, it seems as if the forces of good lost this battle, but I'm not so sure...

In any case, we should not get discouraged, nor should we be surprised, when some things don't go our way. It is the nature of war. We just have to buck ourselves up and look at the heroes, like Katelyn, to give us courage to continue the fight, even if the fight is against those in our own house.

Would that the Senators who claim to be pro-life take a lesson from Miss Sills as they engage the enemy in their upcoming battle to confirm Judge Alito.

James Kabala

The link doesn't work. Can anyone summarize the article?

SiliconValleySteve

I guess we find out what the bishop is made of now.

Ken

The word is not "expelled".

It is "Purged".

Don't ask political questions, Comrades.

George E. Lee

SiliconValleySteve--I see it the same way. This Bishop needs to defend this child who stood up for the unborn and for the Faith.

He ought to give public thanks that within his diocese lives such a heroic young girl.

She's been expelled for her virtues not her vices. She needs his help, not to be abandoned in her current plight.

Todd

Lost in the clutter: any semblance of a pro-life message.

Schools can be very vindictive places. I'm surprised the administration would have made such a clumsy move. Even if Sills had done something to deserve expulsion, it would be sure to be painted negatively by her supporters.

Sills does not give the reason for her expulsion. That contributes, obviously, to the perception that injustice was done.

The lesson to be learned for the young: those with the loudest, most persistent voices, and the friends in highest places, get their way.

Escorting young women to abortion clinics is outside the gospel, but clearly, this situation is too.

Zhou De-Ming

Not to say, "I told you so....."

But I told you so.

Excuse me for coming out of my pre-Advent retreat.

Yes, the teacher was doing bad things, got caught, and got punished.

Yes, the Sacramento Bee published the articles.

However, the student published the Sacramento Bee articles on her Web, giving them a global distribution to a very different audience than the local Sacramento readership. The student then proceeded, for more than two weeks, to provide a forum for not local, not state, but national and global criticism of the school. Ales Rerus (funky dung) initiated a pro-life "blog swarm" around the student and her blog. Based on the several hundreds of comments critical of the school on her blog, and no doubt several hundered elsewhere, I would not be surprised if the Principal arrived to work on Monday with an email box full of very unpleasant emails.

The student was expelled for disturbing the peace, and interfering with the mission of the school: to teach the students. That is what all the other parents are paying for.

The student was not expelled for anything related to abortion or pro-life issues. The student was expelled for creating a global media frenzy critical of, and targeted to, the school, the principal, the teachers, the superintendant, that made it very difficult to carry out the mission of the school: to educate ALL the students there, providing a solid secondary school education in accord with California guidelines. I don't care if you say, "But the Sacrament Bee started it." Yes, the Sac Bee ran two articles. But the student created the high-volume, shrill, global mess on the internet.

Maybe she will learn that life is not black and white, and that there is a fabric, a network of issues that need to be addressed. You cannot just obsess about one item, even a crucial item like abortion, and walk all over people and discregard others feelings and the proper way of doing things. We still live in a society, even if it is infected with a "culture of death," and must behave ourselves in our interactions with each other and the authorities over us and the institutions around us.

And I could not help thinking of the following Gospel story in regard to the mother (who helped a friend get an abortion in college), and the teacher. Do we preach the gospel by firing people?

Matthew 18:23-35 (ASV)

Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, who would make a reckoning with his servants.

And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, that owed him ten thousand talents.
But forasmuch as he had not wherewith to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
The servant therefore fell down and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
And the lord of that servant, being moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.

But that servant went out, and found one of his fellow-servants, who owed him a hundred shillings: and he laid hold on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay what thou owest.
So his fellow-servant fell down and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee.
And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay that which was due.

So when his fellow-servants saw what was done, they were exceeding sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
Then his lord called him unto him, and saith to him, Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou besoughtest me:
shouldest not thou also have had mercy on thy fellow-servant, even as I had mercy on thee?
And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due.
So shall also my heavenly Father do unto you, if ye forgive not every one his brother from your hearts.


SiliconValleySteve

Zhou,

I thought you were gone. I guess only when you are criticized. Then you must go away and pray.

What your post really says is that "disturbing the peace" is the greatest sin. Certainly not killing innocent babies. In the seamless garment, I guess that is the scarf.

Your pious retreat sure seems pretty phony right now.

Todd

Steve, the firing wasn't about killing babies; it was an administrative decision. Don't kid yourself: no babies were saved in the firing of this teacher, in the blog swarm in support of Sills, or in the expulsion of the same student.

Of course, Zhou's nuanced position (on which he hardly offers an opinion, actually) is just relating news. Uncomfortable and inconvenient news for some.

Andy

I attended Loretto. Shortly after I graduated in the early 90's, two of the nuns left IBVM and came out as lesbians. This was to the surprise of very few. That is the atmosphere of that school -- at least it was while I was there.

Paul

Zhou De-Ming writes:

"The student was expelled for disturbing the peace, and interfering with the mission of the school: to teach the students."
Ay there`s the rub.Just what does this school teach?

SiliconValleySteve

Todd,

We don't know what the expulsion is over. The dismissal of the teacher was the judgement of the bishop. I'm sure you're not suggesting that a parent shouldn't contact their bishop about things that concern them. While you may disagree with the bishop, I'm sure you don't believe that.

Katelynn communicated her opinion of what occured on her blog . While the comment boxes got pretty hot, her tone was very moderate. Do you disagree?

Zhou suggests that raising such a question in public and "disturbing the peace" was of great harm. It is better to ignore (or be quiet about) the cause of the unborn than disturb institutional peace. This is a defense that Bull Conner could have used.

Given the strong pro-abortion position of many of the students in the comment boxes, it seems to me that this could be seen as a teachable moment on the church's pro-life position.

Zhou's spritual retreat after making some pretty outrageous insults of his opponents (he said they would be afraid to visit California because drinking the water would make them gay) and then his sudden reappearance to crow sounds pretty phony to me, so I'm calling him on it.

Dale Price

The irony, Zhou, is that by expelling her the powers-that-be have ignited a firestorm/circus that will dwarf the original furor. Reaping a whirlwind, as the man said. It was dying down, but now...

Also, your rebuke is essentially a prescription for quietism. It would certainly have a little more force if this wasn't a school that touted the Catholic label, but that's not the case here.

If it stands, the school will be teaching its students something, all right. But the lesson taught will be Manners First, the Gospel...somewhere down the line.

reluctant penitent

Zhou and Todd,

Your defense of the school's disgraceful action leaves me speechless. You have no idea what the motives of the principal are, whether there was any harassment of anyone in the school by prolife supporters (unlikely given that the school did in fact fire the PP escort teacher).

Todd says 'Escorting young women to abortion clinics is outside the gospel'. No Todd, tennis and hockey are outside the gospel. Escorting women to have babies torn from their wombs and killed is CONTRARY to the gospel.

Zhou says 'life is not black and white, and that there is a fabric, a network of issues that need to be addressed. You cannot just obsess about one item, even a crucial item like abortion, and walk all over people.' Over whom, pray, did this young woman walk? On whom did she step? I read her blog. The only over the top posts were of those who disagreed with her. It takes some very funky exegesis to find in the Gospel a justification of this woman's expulsion. I guess you have to live in Califronia for that to make sense.

Zhou De-Ming

Dear SVS,

If you like, I will mail you a stick with which you can beat me.

I apologized already back on that thread.
Mea culpa! Mea culpa!

When the debate gets too hot, and I post too frequently, it is easy to let anger or frustration get the best of me. Especially in areas like this where I'm simultaneously posting too much and trying to think through the mess and pray. So then I realize: my many words are not good for me or anyone else. Time to be quiet. Time to take fingers off keyboard and go away for a while and pray and read.

I'll be the first to admit that last week I got a bit overheated and rash and was commenting too much and too fast. That is exactly why I need to retreat.

Proverbs 10:19 (ASV):
In the multitude of words there wanteth not transgression;
But he that refraineth his lips doeth wisely.

Last week I was commenting too much.
I transgressed; I sinned.
I need to practice restraint of speech (of comments!).

O.K.?

See you later, aligator!

Colleen

disturbing the peace by filling the administration e-mail to full and commenting on a blog located off campus? What?

You know, if it were me, I would look at this as a wonderful teaching moment... gather the students into the auditorium, teach them the Gospel. Explain to them that a person who escorts pregnant women to abortion clinics in her off time has a serious defect in her relationship to God and therefore, has no place in a Catholic school where she instructs students.

But in my experience with Catholic schools, this is probably how it won't be done.

What are Catholic schools for anyway?

scotch meg

I am disappointed here. I would have thought (silly me) that it would not be necessary to create a disturbance to get a teacher -- who should not have been teaching in a Catholic school -- fired. And I would have thought (silly me) that the school would be grateful to have this improper situation brought to its attention. And furthermore, I would have thought (I guess, ridiculous me) that the negative publicity was not the fault of the student here, but rather of the school's resistance to firing the teacher, if there were any.

Zhou, your parable doesn't make sense to me unless it is the school that needs to forgive the student... did she rant against the school or just complain that she had a teacher who didn't follow church teaching? If the latter, where is the expellable crime? Expelling a student is a pretty extreme act, and usually needs to be justified by some prior written policy... so I'm waiting to see what the justification is. I guess I'm disappointed that you seem to feel expulsion is justified by a student creating negative publicity for the school -- not by committing a heinous crime, but by drawing the school's attention to the presence of a teacher who violated the school's Catholic identity in a pretty fundamental way. Would they have done the same thing if a student revealed that a teacher had a criminal record as a child molester? And certainly, in a school environment where students are old enough to obtain abortions and in a state where students can obtain abortions without their parents' knowledge (and with the assistance of a teacher in some known instances!), this teacher's philosophy and participation in assisting women who obtain abortions are incredibly relevant.

George E. Lee

Over several years I have grown accumstomed to Todd's obtuse sophistry, but, Zhou, I am surprised and disappointed that you would float off into the cumulus-nimbus.

"Disturbing the peace..." Buddy, you don't know me well enough to pull my leg, and with your, "disturbing the peace" bit you must have pulled your own right out of its socket.

Any "peace" this child disturbed was the sort that Christ disturbed, the peace it is our duty to disturb.

The Bishop might just want to show up at that school with a bucket of holy water and a couple of exorcists.

Noble souls need to be defended, all the more so among the young, and that is among the many things the Bishop ought to say publicly now. Any Bishop ought to be proud of this daughter of Christ, and this one ought to mention that part of his mission is to educate the faithful and that in the school of his heart Katelyn Sills is as far from expelled as one can get.

This child didn't disturb the peace. She re-assured me that it exists. Just reading her story made me feel peace.

reluctant penitent

There must be something that an ordinary schlub can do to support this family. Any ideas?

Mary Kay

Let me get this straight, the family acted privately until the Sacrametento Bee made it public, but that was okay.

The teenager, after this publicly written up in a city newspaper, blogs about it and is expelled for "disturbing the peace."

Yeah, right.


thomas tucker

This is outrageous. one thing to do is to really fill their e-mail boxes at Loretto School- i've already written them. This girl is a role model, not a problem to be dismissed. It's the school administration that should be dismised.

Chris Sullivan

I haven't followed all the details of this case, and perhaps the student might have acted unwisely in some respect unkown to me, but I find it deeply disturbing that a Catholic school could even consider expelling a student for having the guts to stand up for her faith.

Surely Catholic schools ought to be encouraging students to stand up for Christ ?

One of the school staff talks of compassion for the fired teacher. Fair enough. Now what about compassion for the expelled student ?

God Bless

Larry

I had not been following this story before now but it seems clear to me that Katelyn is a young woman of conviction and courage. She is swimming against the tide both in her school and in the culture at large.

Ken

The teenager, after this publicly written up in a city newspaper, blogs about it and is expelled for "disturbing the peace."

It's called "making an example". AKA "Any nail that sticks up gets hammered down HARD."

You don't want the common rabble getting uppity.

One of the school staff talks of compassion for the fired teacher. Fair enough. Now what about compassion for the expelled student?

Compassion is only for Our Anointed and Enlightened Betters, who are constantly oozing it out of every pore (and always informing the common rabble of that fact). From my experience with the Professionally Compassionate, there is only one conclusion: Compassion (TM) -- the mark of the sociopath.

Rich Leonardi

Steve, the firing wasn't about killing babies; it was an administrative decision. Don't kid yourself: no babies were saved in the firing of this teacher, in the blog swarm in support of Sills, or in the expulsion of the same student.

It's really not up to the laity to help build the Kingdom of God, right? That might mean we have to get our hands dirty. It's far better for the faint-hearted to throw stones from the sidelines.

Todd

Steve, you're right we don't know why Sills was expelled. She doesn't say on her blog and everybody here is only engaging in speculation with their own ideas. I've posted elsewhere on this site I thought the young Sills was remarkably literate for a person her age--or coimpared to most St Bloggers for that matter.

Zhou suggested a reason why her family's agitation might be cause for her expulsion. It's conjecture. But I don't recall reading where Zhou agrees with that. I do not. But then again, it comes as no surprise to any readers here that I'm not a very pro-establishment person.

rp misses the whole point and isn't even worth more of a response than to say, "Reread the posts in question." Ditto Rich, but that's nothing new.

Seems to me my statement was crystal clear: "Escorting young women to abortion clinics is outside the gospel, but clearly, this situation is too."

Translation:

Volunteering for PP is wrong.

Unjustly expelling a student is wrong.

That's not hard to understand, is it?

JC

1. This would have been a national firestorm whether Katelyn had a blog or not. It just made it easier to convene. Zhou, you referred to the Boston Catholic Charities situation last week. As yuo noted, there was no blog, but there *was* a national firestorm, generated by the pro-life media, of people from all around the country (myself included) who wrote to the Archdiocese and complaind

2. We have a moral duty to speak out in truth. That's all Katelyn did on her blog.

3. Don't forget about the mother getting banned from campus--was that because of the blog?

Zhou, you seem to have a lot of animosity towards pro-life activists. I don't know why.

Abortion is not just one issue among many. It is the single greatest evil facing our society, with the possible exception of contraception.

DarwinCatholic

Steve, the firing wasn't about killing babies; it was an administrative decision. Don't kid yourself: no babies were saved in the firing of this teacher, in the blog swarm in support of Sills, or in the expulsion of the same student.

You're technically right, Todd, that firing a teacher for being a pro-choice escort does not in and of itself immediately "save babies". However, many principled actions don't actualy accomplish the overall aims towards which they aim.

Refusing to vote for David Duke (even imagining that he was right on issues other than race) doesn't prevent racism or lynchings or what have you, but I would argue that it is in fact racist to vote for Duke for any office because people like him should not be elected to do anything. I wouldn't vote for him for the position of dog catcher.

By the same token, if the Catholic Church is serious in believing that abortion is tantamount to homicide, it's clearly unacceptable for it to hire someone who has been active in helping people procure abortions unless she states she has experienced a conversion and changed her beliefs on the topic. (Clearly it would be un-Christian in the extreme to refuse to hire someone based on activities which had been fully repented of -- unless there were psychological reasons for doing so, as in the case of an admitted child molestor.)

So while it's certainly true to say that no babies are saved by firing Ms. Bain, I'm unclear as to how it's relevant.

Dmitri

Let's not mince words. She got canned because she had the audacity to tell the world that the emperor has no clothes. And the powers-that-be could not stand hearing the truth from a simple child.

George E. Lee

It is not possible to determine if any babies were saved from abortion by the firing of the teacher or the widespread publicity about the case or the sterling example provided by Sills, etc.

As zany points go, that one is...well, zanyissimus.

I hope some were and that more will be. We can be sure of this though: Moral cowardice never saved a child from abortion. Perhaps Katelyn Sills' moral courage did save someone's life and ward off immense moral and psychological damage to some mother-to-be.

Nerina

"Don't kid yourself: no babies were saved in the firing of this teacher,..."

I wouldn't be so confident in this assertion. We are talking about a woman who in July, wrote an letter to the editor stating her opposition to parental notification laws and who was then in daily contact with hundreds of young women. It is not a stretch of the imagination to see this teacher "counseling" one of her students about "reproductive health services." We honestly don't know how many babies have been saved.

DarwinCatholic

As per George's comment: It's certainly possible that in the long run, people will be saved or hearts will be changed by the incident. I fully agree with you there. The point I was allowing was that the act of firing the teaching in and of itself on its own doesn't necessarily save lives -- but that that is irrelevant because often one does such things in order to defeat a cause or ideology in the boarder sense.

Zhou De-Ming

Dear JC, you write: Zhou, you seem to have a lot of animosity towards pro-life activists. I don't know why.

Not animosity at all.
Not specific to pro-life issues.

But I am definitely not fond of activists.

Remember that I was an evangelical Protestant minister and missionary for a couple of decades; and I've spent the last 25 or so years in Berkeley, CA. I've seen lots of activists of all sorts: pro-life, pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-protection-of-marriage, pro-feminist, anti-rape, anti-apartheid, anti-discrimination-of-some-sort, pro-Israel, pro-Palestine, pro-this and pro-that, anti-this and anti-that. Between my years in Los Angeles and my years in Berkeley, I've bee through enough riots for one lifetime (and riots, as well as wars, are always started by "activists"). I do not believe that shouting matches in the public square, marches with inevitable anarchy and burning and smashing of things, damage to property and injury and sometimes death to people (often with no involvement at all) are good things.

I have particpated in litigation between Christians, in public and political fights between Christians, seen denominations split, seen families torn apart. All the work of well-intentioned activists. In the Catholic Church I have seen the pro-gay and pro-"laity" activists persecute the more traditional activists (as someone mentioned: the nail that stands up gets pounded down, or the squeaky wheel gets replaced). Where I live, in California, the "activists" in the Spirit of Vatican II have the power, and they know it. The Church in California is dominated by Los Angeles and San Francisco, and Sacramento is, really, just East San Francisco.

I'm tired of the activists. Tired of the bullhorns and protest marches. Tired of the angry letters and emails and blogs. Tired of California Propositions.

I do not believe in activism, of any sort.
Which is, probably, why I resigned from my evangelical Protestant ministry and have been working my way, bit by bit, into a contempaltive, solitary lifestyle.
That is why I often regret my posting comments here.

I believe in prayer. In quiet, even silence. I believe that God reigns. I belive that the Holy Spirit can work in the hearts of people much more effectively than my words, spoken or written.

I am tired of arguing.
I have won a lot of arguments; I was not a bad preacher; and my side won in the litigations.
But I know that winning an argument, or an issue, or an election, is not the way to change the human heart.
---

RP asked: what can you do to help this family? I would suggest getting a scholarship fund together, and get her quickly enrolled in a nice conservative Catholic high school in another state. Maybe she can live with one of you posters from Ohio or Virginia or some such place.

Patrick Rothwell

How can a male named "Andy" graduate from a Catholic girls high school? I smell a troll.

Susan Peterson

I am going to guess here (and forgive me if I am mistaken) that Zhou spoke from a cultural perspective that we owe loyalty to groups and institutions we belong to and that the worst violation of that loyalty is to cause that group or institution to be embarrassed, to "lose face." I am not sure, actually if a group can "lose face" but there surely seems to be at least an analogous idea at work behind his comment. Katelyn's blog drew attention to a serious fault of the school, a lot of negative attention. To him that just seems obviously wrong behavior. I think those who are culturally American are more likely to think that true loyalty to an institution is shown by calling it back to its founding principles, purifying it from its faults. We also value the right of individuals to act according to their consciences much above any responsibility to preserve the good name of the institution.
At least this is what we think unless we are an administrator of the threatened institution...

Susan Peterson

Andy

I assure you I am not a male. Andy is a nickname. This school, like the other Catholic high schools in Sacramento, is really nominally Catholic. The vast majority of students are there for a private school education and not for religious instruction.

SiliconValleySteve

Hi Andy,

I'm going to impose on you a bit here. I have two children approaching high school age. The high schools here are Catholic in Name Only (CINO).

Was your experience at such a school harmful to your faith? Would you send a child of your own to such a school?

Thanks,

Steve

Rich Leonardi

rp misses the whole point and isn't even worth more of a response than to say, "Reread the posts in question." Ditto Rich, but that's nothing new.

That's right, Todd. Unless someone participates in one of your buckish, bloviating online sideshows, he's "missing the point."

JC

A couple more thoughts:

1. Todd has commented on seeing "no discernable pro-life message." That's because abortion is only a secondary issue. It could just as easily be homosexuality, contraception, liberation theology, "modern" Scripture Scholarship, _Glory and Praise for Kids_ or a priest saying that all religions are equal at a school mass.
The main issue here is the integrity of Catholic schools.

2. I have *never* heard of a student being expelled, by *letter*, with no warning whatsoever. Even if this was about her blog, the school could have issued her a warning to stop it.
Normally, even if a student is being summarily expelled for a fight or something, there is some kind of meeting with the parents. Oh, that's right. The parents were banned from campus.

Funny. The primary educators of a child are banned from that child's school.

Now, this is where I disagree with the Sills: they should be jumping for joy and shaking the dust off their feet.

Zhou,
Some are called to vita activa. Some are called to vita contempliva. That's fine. Don't condemn those who have a different vocation than you do, just because it's not the same vocation.

Andy

Steve -

I think it depends on the individual child and the parents. If your kids have a solid backgroud in the faith and you are willing to keep up with their religion classes and discuss with them what they are being taught, I think it's fine. Many of my classmates were very impressionable (as most young people are) and very willing to run with what they were being taught. It could, however, strengthen your children's faith by opening up a dialogue with you and discussing what the Church teaches and why. I hope that helps!

Art Deco

Zhou writes:
The student was expelled for creating a global media frenzy critical of, and targeted to, the school, the principal, the teachers, the superintendant, that made it very difficult to carry out the mission of the school: to educate .

Please explain the mechanics of how the appearance of some newspaper articles prevent teachers from lecturing, repairmen from attending to plumbing mishaps, bookkeepers from making their journal and ledger entries, and the principal from assembling the budget and writing descriptions for job ads.

Patrick Rothwell

Sorry, Andy. You can see why I was puzzled.

Someone mentioned that Sister Jeanne Grammick entered the IBVM. I thought she entered the other Loretto Sisters, the ones with SL after their name and of Maureen Fiedler fame. But perhaps I am wrong. In any event, unless there is some other relevant part of the story that we don't know about, I agree that the expulsion is outrageous.

mark j

what a surprise. Todd making excuses for abortionists. where have I seen this before?

Andy

The nuns at Loretto are IBVM.

Zhou

If anyone is interested, the Bishop did publish a public letter in PDF format on October 26.

brendon

Re: "Disturbing the peace"

The best definition I have ever seen of peace is "the tranquility of order." But it is important to realize that "order" does not mean "any order," but rather "right order." A Catholic school that is not true to what its mission should be is in no way rightly ordered; it is, by definition, not at peace. Thus, Katelyn and her family did not "disturb the peace" at all. Rather, they removed the sham facade that led others to believe peace existed. They refused to cry "Peace, peace" when there was no peace.

Rich Leonardi

Brendon,

Well said. I believe that definition comes from St. Augustine's City of God. Tranquillitas Ordinis he called it.

JC

An anonymous poster to Katelyn's blog has now added a few details to the situation.
Supposedly, Katelyn's father was "threatening" at a Parents' meeting. Gee. I once knew a bunch of liberal nuns who thought a man with Down's syndrome was "threatening" by just hanging around the church, so I don't put much credence in that vaguery.
But the person also claims that Mrs. Sills "threatened" to "expose" something that occurred at the school's 50th anniversary banquet. . . . As a PR consultant, a 50th anniversary banquet should be something to announce, not cover up. . . .

reluctant penitent

Zhou says:

'I do not believe that shouting matches in the public square, marches with inevitable anarchy and burning and smashing of things, damage to property and injury and sometimes death to people (often with no involvement at all) are good things.'

Karen Sills did nothing of the sort and the excesses of others have no relevance to her case. I know of no wrongdoing or excess on Karen Sills' part and I continue to find it puzzling that Zhou is so contemptuous of her efforts and dismissive of the injustice that appears to have been done to her.

No Zhou, the solution is not to exile Karen Sills to another state. The solution is to help her make her case against the school if that is what she chooses to do. Of course it's still possible that there is some impropriety that justifies her expulsion, but I'm sceptical. I suspect that we would have heard of it by now.

HA

"Escorting young women to abortion clinics is outside the gospel…"

No doubt. And the atmosphere at Ford's Theatre was not conducive to Mrs. Lincoln's overall enjoyment of the performance, eh? I mean, as long as we're into telling it like it is, not to mention calling Zhou's subsequent statements "nuanced".

Again, the story as I understand it is that Ms. Bain was called in for a consultation (something denied Katelyn before she was expelled, I might add) at which point she was given the option of saying that her abortion facilitation is something she now strongly regretted. She chose not to do so. Had she answered differently, she would not have been fired. So this is more than what Ms Bain did in the past, and it has nothing to do with bullhorns and protest marches either.

Yes, all this is via Katelyn’s version of the story, but if there is anything that you or the Sacramento press or Katelyn’s countless detractors have to offer that would contradict her version, I suspect you would have let us know.

Zhou

From a Loretto Student posted to K. Sills' blog:

Everyone at Loretto received a letter today to inform them of Katelyn's expulsion. The school said that they asked her to leave because they had received threats,demands, malicious language etc from the family.

That is not my opinion, it is simply what the letter stated.

My own personal opinion is that I would really like ALL Catholic persons and institutions, from my local parishes to Loretto High School to actually practice, to the best of their ability, what the Church teaches. Remember, my entire adult Catholic life has been in an environment where "Ratzinger" was a curse and people spit in the direction of Rome. When I considered the Permanent Diaconate and began formation with the Diocese, I quickly learned to shut up or leave. So I left.

It may be that the School is now in a power struggle with the bishop, and the sisters are playing a game of, "O.K., we dismissed the teacher for you; now we're dismissing the student. What are you going to do about it?"

Lawsuits against the school could easily expand to include diocesan liabilities. It appears that Bp. Weigand just clarified his policy about school staff after the fact (based on the beginning of his Oct. 26 letter). It could be a big mess for all involved: the Bishop, the Diocese, the School, the Sisters, the Students. The lawyers will clean up, of course.

But trying to beat people into being "Catholic" just doesn't work, in my opinion. The people with the power don't like being told that they are "not Catholic enough."

HA

Zhou: Do we preach the gospel by firing people?

Again, according to the data at hand, the teacher was given the option of renouncing her past activities. Had she done so, she would not have been fired. While I might be misinformed, I have yet to hear a convincing alternate version. As such, the above post seems very small-minded, even if the only intention is to speak up against loud activism (a sentiment I sympathize with).

If Katelyn was asked to do something about the blog, and refused, then presumably the school might have a case. But note the following item from the school's webpage:

together we will provide an environment where young women grow into "disciplined, creative, independent thinkers who have intellectual curiosity and a respect, both spiritual and practical, for life."

To the uninitiated, I ask you to read over the initial (700+) postings on this matter on Katelyn's blog and tell me whether it is Katelyn or her numerous anonymous detractors who fit the above mission statement better, and which set of comments made it into a "shrill, global mess".

HA

I actually meant Zhou's original post on this matter...

reluctant penitent

'But trying to beat people into being "Catholic" just doesn't work, in my opinion.'

No it does not, but that's not what's happening here. One is merely asking that a school that calls itself 'Catholic' ought to live up to that. It's truth in advertising. If you disagree then I have some shares in a kosher ham factory to sell you.

HA

The school said that they asked her to leave because they had received threats,demands, malicious language etc from the family.

Again, read over the initial 700+ posts on this topic on Katelyn's blog and see for yourself which side was the one issuing threats, demands and malicious language. Will any of these other students will be disciplined in the same way? Or is spewing threats and expletives acceptable so long as it is done anonymously?

Zhou

Here is your chance to speak loudly---

The SacBee reporter is soliciting input for the next story in the saga....

From K's blog:

I'm a reporter working on a follow up story about the Sills and Loretto. If there are any Loretto students, former students, teachers or former teachers out there who want to share their views, please send me an e-mail at tmilbourn@sacbee.com

Or call (916) 321-1063

Thanks,
Todd
Todd Milbourn

Let all those who want their voice heard in Sacramento contact Todd.

Todd

"Some are called to vita activa. Some are called to vita contempliva. That's fine. Don't condemn those who have a different vocation than you do, just because it's not the same vocation."

Sounds like a message quite a few of us could take to heart. Clearly, it matters little in St Blog's if one is pro-life; you have to say it the same way everybody else says it, or as Rich and mark j aptly point out, it doesn't count.

And with an attitude like that, some people will be damned if they'll make converts to the pro=life position. It feels better to be shrill.

Zhou

Longer quote of expulsion info letter within comment another student on K's blog:

Hello Katelyn. I'm a classmate of yours, a junior at Loretto High School. What you failed to mention in your brief blog was the fact that you and your family were dismissed from the Loretto community for reasons completely seperate from your anti-abortion stance. To quote the letter I received this afternoon:
However, for the past two weeks the focus of administration, faculty and students has been seriously disrupted by the Sills family. The family continued to meddle in the administrative affairs of Loretto High School by making demands and threats that created an atmosphere contrary to the mission of Loretto. The malicious language, taunts, threats, abuse towards members of our school community, gossip, rumors, unkind language and behavior continue. An email circulated on October 27, 2005, throughout the Sacramento region has slandered the reputation and integruty of Loretto High School. This letter is to inform you that it is necessary to dismiss the Sills family from our school community.
Please stop misrepresenting yourself and your family. I'm sure you are a very nice girl with good intentions, but your omission of key facts is causing too much backlash. I cannot stand by while your online Catholic cohorts trash Loretto High. To all of you: Loretto is my second home, full of some of the most fantastic people I have ever known. It is a place of honorable people and noble intentions. Don't you dare assume to know the school by reading a one-sided explanation.

Katelyn, you say that things have gone back to normal. You say that you've met equal amounts of people for and against the original decision. You are unbelievably wrong. The student body could not possibly feel angrier or more betrayed at you and your family, and I'm sure many feel no sadness about your expulsion.

The letter from Loretto was right. You were not expelled for the abortion conflict; the Loretto community is not as vindictive as your family. You, personally, were expelled because there was no other way to keep your family away from the school, faculty, and students. You and your parents have been cruel and unchristian to those who dedicate their lives to giving YOU a good education. Even I have been on the receiving end of your family's hatred disguised as Catholicism. You should be ashamed at your hateful actions against an institution that has given so much.

SiliconValleySteve

Zhou,

I think that living the bay area has caused you to advocate a kind of dimmitude towards radical secularism.

Zhou

Dear SVS et alia,

(In my best Stitch accent, you know, from "Lilo & Stitch"):

Catholic means universal.
Universal means nobody gets left behind.

(What do you expect? I went through RCIA.)

Rich Leonardi

... you have to say it the same way everybody else says it, or as Rich and mark j aptly point out, it doesn't count

But you don't say it. You merely ridicule others who do.

More to the point, you and the one or two people on St. Blog's who agree with you only embrace the Church's teaching on subjects like this in the abstract. Once that teaching is put into practice and lived by members of the faithful, you mock them for their understandable shortcomings instead of saluting them for their courage. That's contemptible and, dare I say it, unchristian.

reluctant penitent

'Catholic means universal. Universal means nobody gets left behind.'

In addition to a kosher ham factory, you can buy into a Catholic porn theater and a Catholic abortuary. Interested? You wouldn't want to leave anyone behind, not even the abortionists or the pornographers. After all, 'catholic' means 'universal.'

What I don't get is, why can't Loretto just call itself a Unitarian private school and call it a day?

SiliconValleySteve

Pope John Paul II called us to become a counter-culture against the culture of death. The resistance we see from the Loretto "community" is indicative of the kind of reception this call is getting. If the Church actually takes up this call, there are going to be a whole lot of angry "Catholics."

"Waa.. we want to be just like everybody else, just with better schools and nicer stuff."

HA

Don't condemn those who have a different vocation than you do, just because it's not the same vocation.

Does the same go for those who choose the kind of activism you (and I) are so sick of? If so, then you might want to rethink some of your prior statements.

As for the cited letter from one of Katelyn's detractors (have a guess as to whether it too was anonymous), the implied view again seems to be that everything was fine back when the drama teacher was an unreformed abortion escort, until the Sills dared to "meddle" into this happy consensus. I'm no eager advocate of obnoxious activism, but I see a hole in that story.

Mary Kay

Loretto school must specialize in appalling activity. Even temporarily setting aside everything up to now, the fact that the school sent a letter to every student saying that a fellow student had been expelled just staggers my mind. Totally out of line. Totally unprofessional and uncharitable. But given the rest of what's happened, not surprising.

Zhou

HA wrote: the implied view again seems to be that everything was fine back when the drama teacher was an unreformed abortion escort, until the Sills dared to "meddle" into this happy consensus

We must be on the same frequency.

You know, from all the alumnae commenting negatively about the Sills, I suspect this school has been a hen house of heterodoxy for some time, maybe back to the late 1960's.

But Bp. Weigand has been on duty as Bishop since 1993--twelve years. His office is just 1.5 miles from Loretto High School. What has the good bishop been doing all these years? How about throwing a few rocks at him for letting this go on so long? Surely he knew what was happening right under his nose.

Methinks the good bishop really does not want to tangle with the sisters.

HA

A worthy observation. Rick Lugari's 9:01:51 AM post speaks to this as well.

In any case, as even I will begrudgingly admit, perhaps a little activism is sometimes exactly what we all need. Rosa Parks, we hardly knew ye.

Karen LH

"the fact that the school sent a letter to every student saying that a fellow student had been expelled just staggers my mind. Totally out of line. Totally unprofessional and uncharitable."

I had the same reaction. It just seems to me that, regardless of their orthodoxy, the school administration could have handled this situation a whole lot more intelligently.

Rich Leonardi

You know, from all the alumnae commenting negatively about the Sills, I suspect this school has been a hen house of heterodoxy for some time, maybe back to the late 1960's.
...
Methinks the good bishop really does not want to tangle with the sisters.

Suspect all you want, but decisions are based on evidence. Whispers and rumors of a school's heterodoxy aren't enough. What we do know is that once the bishop had specific evidence concerning the murderous drama teacher he acted. For that he deserves our praise.

JC

Todd,

Thanks for takign my statement on vocations out of context.
No one is saying that everyone has to demonstrate outside abortion clinics. But we Catholics all *have* to be pro-life. We have a choice as to how we express that; we do not have a choice to be "pro-choice."

cuddihy

No doubt the expelling of the young woman is unjust. The Gospel for today was the beatitudes.

Blessed are those who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

Anonymous Teacher Person

I just don't see this situation being resolved, ever. I can't imagine what Katelyn and her family are going through right now, and I can't imagine still going to that school, if I were Katelyn. I don't think I'd have had the courage to deal with all of the snippiness from some of her classmates. And I know we are not hearing all of the story - I wonder how many students are quietly in support of Katelyn and aren't getting our attention because they don't show up to post on her blog.

This is one of many situations that makes me glad I'm not a bishop, because I would have no clue how to resolve this. I'm not saying, "gee, I'm not sure if she should have been expelled or not," but rather - this school is going to be reeling from this event for a long time. I'm not sure how the bishop or the faculty could get the school back on track.

And I wonder what repercussions this will have for Katelyn later in her academic career.

Anonymous Teacher Person

I just don't see this situation being resolved, ever. I can't imagine what Katelyn and her family are going through right now, and I can't imagine still going to that school, if I were Katelyn. I don't think I'd have had the courage to deal with all of the snippiness from some of her classmates. And I know we are not hearing all of the story - I wonder how many students are quietly in support of Katelyn and aren't getting our attention because they don't show up to post on her blog.

This is one of many situations that makes me glad I'm not a bishop, because I would have no clue how to resolve this. I'm not saying, "gee, I'm not sure if she should have been expelled or not," but rather - this school is going to be reeling from this event for a long time. I'm not sure how the bishop or the faculty could get the school back on track.

I'm hoping this doesn't turn up as a double-post, because Typepad just gave me a funky error message...trying again...

Sonetka

Sweet stuttering Jesus, the comments by the "Loretto girls" are absolutely unbelievable. Get some decent rhetoric teachers to that school, stat, because their prose styles, not to mention their delightful lack of logic, is dreadful. This won't mitigate the fact that they're running in vicious packs, as is common among adolescent girls, but at least they wouldn't be embarrassing themselves quite as much in front of millions of strangers. And what's with the hysterical shrieks about how Loretto is a Family and Outsiders Will Never Understand? It's a school, for God's sake, not Heaven's Gate.

/so glad I went to public high school.

Sonetka

The comments from the Loretto girls are absolutely unbelievable. No, I take it back - they're absolutely believable as representations of the vicious pack mentality teenage girls are all too prone towards. I feel sorry for them, to be honest - they can't have any idea how they sound to anyone older than fifteen or so, and their adolescent sneerings are going to be archived on the net for years to come. I wouldn't be surprised if many of them feel differently in ten years or so.

That being said, their reaction does seem to demonstrate that canning the teacher was necessary if the school was even going to pretend to be Catholic. She seems to have been one of those popular Jean Brodie-type teachers with a core of groupies - not a bad thing in itself, but if one of them had confided in her about a pregnancy we can guess what may have happened.

But I have to ask - what on earth is up with their shrieking insistence that Loretto is a FAMILY, we're family FOREVER and we will all be HAPPY AND UNIFIED OR ELSE?!!!!"? Come on girls, it's a school, not Jonestown.

/so glad I went to public school, where we were not expected to protest our eternal devotion to the School of Schools

//also glad I went to high school before blogging was widespread.

Sonetka

Oops - first post didn't go through, so I rewrote and expanded. Sorry about that!

Jane

From the letter sent to the students from the administration of Loretto:
"An email circulated on October 27, 2005, throughout the Sacramento region has slandered the reputation and integruty of Loretto High School."
"Integruty"? I hope they are planning to hire a spelling teacher or, at the least, a proof reader.

Celeste

The girl's goose was cooked from the moment her mom submitted proof about the teacher to the chancery. She must have known that the school would take no action, and that proof was necessary; this says a lot about the atmosphere at the school.
Once they were forced by the bishop to sack the teacher and seemed to be offended more by the picture taking than by the activity photographed, the girl's days there were numbered. They seem to have seized on the rationale that her mother is demanding, unpredictable and willing to hold their feet to the fire with the bishop. So the mother is a handful. The message they sent was a bit like the one Libby sent to Joe Wilson: if the boat gets rocked, it's going to be you in the water. Sending the letter about the expulsion to the entire student body will have a chilling effect on other girls who might want to object to anything out of line with Church teaching, and was probably meant to intimidate them as much as restore order.
These situations are delicate, I'm sure, and call for skillful management. You want order but you also want to send the right message about values. To try to settle things by blaming a child for offenses committed by a teacher and a mother: bad management.

Bill H

Does anyone know anything about this story beyond what upset teenage girls have posted on their blogs or in comment boxes?

midwestmom

"You, personally, were expelled because there was no other way to keep your family away from the school, faculty, and students. You and your parents have been cruel and unchristian to those who dedicate their lives to giving YOU a good education. Even I have been on the receiving end of your family's hatred disguised as Catholicism."

This sounds like the same argument used by the gay & lesbian crowd to shut up people who dare point out the dangers of their promiscuous lifestyles. Sills was expelled for her 'intolerance', plain and simple.

I thought all respectable liberal Catholics were anti-war. Where is the love and forgiveness from the IBVM sisters at Loretto?

Patrick Rothwell

It would be interesting to know what the offending e-mail said. It's one thing to inform the bishop about the abortion escort drama teacher. It's another thing altogether to engage in a systematic scandalmongering campaign against the school. I don't think the family is giving us the whole story, so I would like to see more information about the supposedly intolerable activities of the family before I start criticizing the expulsion.

Todd

If the given reason for Sills' expulsion is accurate, I must withdraw my comment critical of the school. Schools might overreact at times in this era of violence, but all it would take is one half-crazed anti-abortionist to cause substantial harm to Loretto. It could be Sills' defenders were a little too vocal and activist *after* the desired result was achieved. Bain gets pink-slipped and the fight's going on? What's that about?

Few posters here have direct experience of the community, and most of us are operating on hearsay and gossip. Much like an average parish, in fact.

I can sympathize with a young person taking a courageous stand for her beliefs. But unlike with Rosa Parks, this situation has spun beyond control. The description of "demands, threats, taunts, and slander" is sadly in keeping with the more extreme elements of the anti-abortion movement. A school would be foolish to chalk it up, as I might be able to, to St Blog's Echo Chamber.

And the best the commentary the EC can come up with? Teenage girls don't write properly or they write like gays and lesbians. Are you serious?

The lay apostolate, including the pro-=life movement, is called to a more basic foundational effort in living the Gospel: the sanctification of the world. When trumpeting the anti-abortion message as loudly as one can overtakes any sense of charity, faith, or hope, then the deal has gone off the rails, as it has here. Are people urged to greater holiness or respect for life?

Sills' most vocal supporters have managed to give people on both sides lots of reasons to be more rigid and closed-minded than before. Some people don't see a young woman with the courage of her convictions. They see a person with friends who are loud, bossy, insulting, and possibly dangerous. And if they read this site, they see people whose modus operandi is the circular firing squad.

Rich may find that people who disagree with him to be insulting. That's fine. But consider that though the desired end was good, the means attempted to get there have failed utterly in this instance. For most people, that would mean a trip back to the drawing board.

SiliconValleySteve

Gee Todd,

You've found a way to put yourself back onto the side with the radical pro-aborts after considering the rights of the girl and her family. Okay, they said the family made threats, that must mean that they threatened violence. Pretty good slander buddy. For a second I thought there was hope for you. No such luck.

reluctant penitent

Laptop computer: $800
Internet connection: $20
Seeing Todd rationalize the persecution of a pro-life student by a 'Catholic' school administrator: priceless.

We can only be grateful that there is no parish in the US that would allow Todd to have a say in its liturgical affairs.

midwestmom

"Teenage girls don't write properly or they write like gays and lesbians. Are you serious?"

You missed my point, Todd. If anyone voices an anti-homosexual stance, they are accused of hate speech and the such by the militant homosexual crowd (and even the sappy not-so-militant). How do we know the same thing isn't happening here?

You shouldn't be so quick to believe the account coming from the dissenting side regarding supposed threats, taunts, etc. They've shown their true character. They make their own rules. How do you know they adhere to the eighth commandment? Why would you believe them?

RBC

Todd,
It's been blogged by classmates who got the email that it asked for prayers for the family and the school that is in "crisis".
The family may have "threatened" to go to the bishop and "taunted" lame responses of the administration after it became clear that the school was not going to ask the teacher to leave.
Remember, when they fired the teacher, they also "fired" the mother by barring her from campus. Of course, she would feel punished for forcing this matter to a head.
Now that they have "fired" the daughter because she is related to the mother who objected to being treated like a menace, they have demonstrated that the publicity about being "intolerant" towards the teacher is more important to them than the publicity about not being unconditionally pro-life. What all the publicity really shows is what can happen when a mistaken notion of "tolerance" is the guiding value in decision making: the students become relativists and anyone who exposes this has to go.

Todd

Clearly, Steve and rp have no problem with slander and outright falsehood in the cause of saving unborn babies. I'd rest my case, but somebody else will predictably reinforce my point for me. Thanks, guys.

Todd

midwestmom, thanks for your reasonable questions and response. I'm not sure what hate speech has to do with this situation. I hesitate to bring up that some anti-abortion people are inclined to violence, as are many who have an activism in their lives unbalanced by prayer or charity.

"How do we know the same thing isn't happening here?"

That's my point, in part. We don't know that Sills' supporters don't feel this way as well. It is possible for both sides to be wrong, even if each feels they are right.

"You shouldn't be so quick to believe the account coming from the dissenting side regarding supposed threats, taunts, etc."

My belief was conditional. Quite frankly, I find neither side very credible, though your posts and Zhou's have the ring of sensibility about them.

"They've shown their true character."

Not sure about this. There's been ugliness on both sides. It reminds me of the Schiavo case: things getting personal tending to obscure the core issues of the situation.

"They make their own rules."

Well, they're the school and they're the Church. Two strikes. I went to a Catholic high school, so I'm familiar with the shtick. I tend to distrust the establishment, remember?

"How do you know they adhere to the eighth commandment?

I don't really. But the Catechism relates Church teaching: I'm obliged to believe the best in them (and in the Sills's, too) unless I have serious reason to believe otherwise.

"Why would you believe them?"

They have yet to give me a reason not to. Very telling is Katelyn's not posting the text of the expulsion letter. Not that I would ask her to do so, but lacking that letter, we don't have the whole story in front of us. If this were totally unjust, she wouldn't have any reason to withhold it. But if the school were specific in that letter, it would present their argument.

Sonetka

Todd - or perhaps she didn't post the text of the expulsion letter because it simply said something like "Due to reasons of which you are no doubt aware, we feel it would be best if you did not continue to attend Loretto." In other words, it had no new material to add to the debate. By the way, what makes you think that while everything else might be twisted, the expulsion letter would necessarily contain the truth?

Todd

Sonetka, good questions. If the letter were worded as you theorize, it would, in my opinion, reflect unfavorably on the administration.

"By the way, what makes you think that while everything else might be twisted, the expulsion letter would necessarily contain the truth?"

Administrators try and cover their butts.

As far as I know, Bain's history as an abortion escort was unknown to the school administration. When they were informed, the bishop decided to instruct them to fire her. So far as I can tell, the school has done everything asked of it by the bishop, and complied with Mrs Sills' request to fire the teacher.

Perhaps it's somewhere on the net, but I haven't read anything to lead me to think the school intentionally hired an abortion supporter for the expressed purpose of undermining Catholic teaching of teen girls. Maybe they knew, but didn't think it would be an issue. That might be debatably stupid on their part, but stupidity and/or ignorance don't necessarily lead me to think of a person or an outfit as untrustworthy.

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