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December 06, 2005

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KH

I thought manga was the print version and you called it anime when it was a cartoon?

A day or two ago, I came across an anime cartoon that looked like any cartoon that a kid would watch...but it quickly turned out to be nothing more than raunchy voyeurism - really sleazy, shocking stuff, with older men taking extreme advantage of young teen girls in various states of undress. One more channel I've got to put the block on.
And I used to love Speed Racer; who knew?

Jacob

KH:
That distinction is still correct, but in the US, the terms have become confused with each other.

As for the continuing move of anime/manga in the US toward more adult subjects, such subjects have existed in Japan for decades. However, it's just now that anime/manga is finding an audience that is willing to buy such stuff now that anime/manga is no longer viewed as kiddie cartoons like Speed Racer.

Matthew Mehan

thanks, Amy.

Tim Johnson

As a long time comic reader and artist, I personally cannot stand the stuff. I see little artistic or creative value in most of it from the aesthetic POV. The stories rarely are something I can follow with interest either.

Even the highly acclaimed Akira movie was so disappointing. I read a large part of the comic translation years ago and really liked it, but the movie was awful.

Just. Don't. Get. It.

Ken

Old joke around the fringe of manga/anime fandom:

...what is it about manga that has it attracting more and more readers?

"TENTACLES!!!"

Kevin Jones

Is Mercatornet an Opus Dei production? (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

It seems to have material from the University of Navarre and an apparently OD Spanish-language magazine.

Jill Christensen

I always love to see a random reference to anime. Thanks for noting this one Amy.

KH,
I've been a fan of anime and manga since I was in junior high in the late eighties. And believe you me, if that anime you saw was shocking you don't want to know what I'd seen before I had graduated from high school ^_^;
Try renting Totoro, its very wholesome and charming.

This thing to remember in any media is that about 90% is always junk. The other thing to remember is that Japan has an utterly foreign culture and manga reflects that culture. The lechery of older men towards girls is an issue there in a way we would never tolerate in the US today.

Tim Johnson,
As one artist to another, I've only learned to appreciate American comics in the last few years (and still find the European ones leave me cold) I can sympathize. Part of the problem may be that our production of comics is very limited. You have to be pretty good to be picked up by a major publisher. Also, most of our titles are monthly rather than weekly. There are definitely very good manga artists out there, and I have five I particularly admire, but as I said above, there's a lot of chaff to sift though first.

As far as narrative goes: here in Orange County, CA, I mostly see teenage girls reading manga. Including manga originally aimed at a male audience. Conversely, I know that American comics have a largely adult male readership. Perhaps there's something to that. Oh, and Akira: C'mon... we all know cosmic law dictates that the book is normally better than the movie ^_^

Yours in Christ,
Jill Christensen

Samuel J. Howard

I'd say it's definitely an Opus Dei project.

"MercatorNet is a project of the New Media Foundation, an Australian company
which sponsors innovative projects in the media. Its directors are:

"Dr Amin Abboud, a Sydney doctor and lecturer in bioethics at the University
of New South Wales
"Arthur Escamilla, a Sydney lawyer
"Michael Cook, editor of MercatorNet"

And then see:

http://www.newmatilda.com/home/articledetailmagazine.asp?ArticleID=1057&CategoryID=-1

and Michael Cook's response:

http://www.newmatilda.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114

And that Athur Escamilla edits the Opend Directory Project Opus Dei and
Escriva categories.
http://dmoz.org/profiles/aescamilla.html

Samuel J. Howard

And if this is the same Matthew Meehan who posts here sometimes, he's admissions director at The Heights, an Opus Dei school.

Which is entirely non-sinister, but does show you the power of Google.

(And the lengths some people will go to avoid doing their laundry.)

Blake

I would ask that anyone reading this please don't let your children read manga or watch anime.

Get your kid a copy of Justice League Adventures or The Batman Strikes. These will be stories with clearly defined morality and a real sense of good and evil. Manga and anime usually lack this or fail to adequately portray the difference (e.g. Big Monster attacks, Big Fight Ensues, The End).

Ken

This thing to remember in any media is that about 90% is always junk.

In SF fandom, that's called "Sturgeon's Law", after the guy who's credited with inventing the quote.

And on anime in general:

1) For family-friendly (but not kiddie) anime, anything by Miyazaki is usually pretty good.

2) Take a look at the article on Anime at Wikipedia; the various links give a detailed view of the sub-genres so you know what NOT to look for.

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