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January 06, 2006
McBrien and the Bloggers
In his latest column, Fr. Richard McBrien looks at the Boston Catholic Charities dinner fracas, honing in on Carol McKinley (who has a deep dislike of me, by the way, I understand, but I most definitely don't want to go there in comments, please) in particular.
I was going to just excerpt, but this deserves something I rarely have time to do these days: a mild Fisking. In honor of the theme of the column - distress about the unwashed, unordained daring to comment on church matters, I think I'll go ahead.
What is most entertaining about the column is to watch those who have, for years, been telling us about the importance of the laity in the Church, sensus fidelium, the limits of the hierachy and the really non-specialness of the ordained, have kiniption fits about the non-ordained, non-professed jumping in the mix.
Well, because it's the wrong kind of non-ordained, I suppose.
Quick summary of the situation. Boston Catholic Charities recently held a dinner at which the mayor of Boston, a Catholic who supports abortion rights and legalized homosexual unions, was honored. In his defense, he said that his commitment to social justice for the poor was the fruit of his Catholic faith. There were petitions and complaints. Archbishop O'Malley ultimately did not attend the dinner.
George Weigel dissected Menino's statements on his faith here, concluding:
So it seems that Menino knows neither the Bible, nor the catechism, nor the teaching of popes and bishops.
But of course, none of that matters to Fr. McBrien, who resolutely refuses, in this column, to hold Menino's statements to any kind of critical scrutiny, reserving his scapel for the "ultra conservatives" who have the temerity to question Catholic Charities' choice.
So, there's our first question. Why is Mayor Menino's assessment of the Catholic faith given a pass? He's a non-expert. He's just the mayor of Boston. What could he possibly know about theology? Why can't he be cross-examined, too?
Don't answer. Don't even try. Let's get to that column:
A tiny group of ultra-conservative Catholics protested the decision of Catholic Charities of Boston, the largest private social services agency in Massachusetts, to confer its annual award upon Boston's mayor, Thomas Menino. Catholic Charities honored him for his commitment to the poor and to the cause of justice. The activists, on the other hand, regard him as an advocate of abortion and gay marriage.
Well, is he? Note that nowhere in the column does Fr. McBrien come out and state what Menino believes or has advocated on these matters. ( Some details, from a source inimical to Menino)
Significantly, the activists were unable to force the mayor to step aside and decline the award, nor were they able to discourage prominent Catholics from attending the $500-a-plate dinner in support of Catholic Charities. Indeed, for every conservative Catholic who ran for cover, there were many more lay Catholics ready to take their places.
Implication: those objecting were not "lay." When in fact, they were mostly lay. You know, laity. We Are the Church, etc.
Menino said that his understanding of Catholicism was derived from the nuns who taught him in parochial school and that it had to do with reaching out to people in need: "the hungry, the naked, the homeless, the sick, and yes, the imprisoned," referring to the parable of the sheep and the goats in Matthew's Gospel.
The mayor also pointed out that Jesus "did not give priority to piety. He didn't make holiness the big thing. And he did not tell us to go around talking up God, either."
His critics, however, saw it differently. In their eyes, they alone are "authentic Catholics." Everyone else, it seems, can be written off as dissidents or heretics --- "bad Catholics" all.
Notice, again, that Fr. McBrien does not choose to critique Menino's views, wondering, for example, if the nuns who taught Mayor Menino would have advocated abortion rights. I thought there was, you know, a Seamless Garment of life issues. I thought it was all tied together. I thought that a Catholic who is anti-abortion expresses reservations about the efficacy of massive government spending as a way to aid the poor they're, like, not buying into the total Gospel of Life. How come the "advocates for the poor" get to leave out the unborn, consistently, always and ever, and get a pass?
And why does Fr. McBrien let that second paragraph from Menino go by without comment? Does he really hold up such sloppy thinking as a valued contribution to Catholic life in the world?
These ultra-conservative activists, for whom abortion is the only moral and political issue that counts, not only miss the Latin Mass but also the former archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Bernard Law, who allowed Operation Rescue, a militant anti-abortion organization, to use Catholic churches as staging areas of illegal blockades of abortion clinics.
Explain, Fr. McBrien, why it is "Catholic" for abortion not to count at all. That is the issue. Why is it "Catholic" for abortion to be left completely out of the justice equation.
Answer: it's not. If all of these issues are connected, that means...they're connected.
The foundress of Faithful Voice, a counterpart to Voice of the Faithful, has said on her Web site that the Republican governor of Massachusetts, by urging all hospitals to obey a new state law mandating that emergency contraception be offered to rape victims, was in effect saying that Catholic hospitals "must be forced to kill children."
Regarding the president of Catholic Charities, Father J. Bryan Hehir, one of the most respected priests in the United States and a long-time staff member at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, she wrote: "That man is pure unadulterated evil. He literally sends shivers up my spine. If he and his cronies think we're going to tolerate he and the Archbishop's material cooperation in abortions --- we'll chase them out of town faster than you can say Voice of the Faithful."
That's Carol McKinley's battle, there. I'm sure she is defending herself on her own blog.
But this next paragraph interests me very much:
What has changed on the ecclesiastical and political fronts over the past decade is the broad accessibility of the Internet. With it has come a new capacity of individuals, who could never be published by reputable newspapers and magazines, to gain an audience via personal blogs and to attract the attention even of the mainstream media, which are always interested in controversy, especially of the man-bites-dog variety.
I'm not one to celebrate the Internet as the Second Coming of Gutenburg or anything. I've never been a Blog Triumphalist. It's one more means of communication - and a handy one. It has its problems, certainly, and is not the Messiah of anything. But oh, that paragraph. I could spend days on it.
It's the Old Guard, getting a little nervous. It's about guardians of power and yes, orthodoxy, looking behind them, a little dismayed at what they see.
The irony is almost too much. All I've been hearing for thirty years is that the work of the Spirit cannot be confined, that it works far and wide, through all parts of the Body of Christ. I've been hearing that the old, hidebound hierarcy, trapped by its own insular vision and experience must start listening to that Spirit as it moves through the People of God, be open and unafraid of the new things God is doing all the time, everywhere.
I've been hearing that. For a long time.
And do you know what? I believe it.
The question is - does Fr. McBrien?
Thanks to Brian Knotts for the heads-up. Go visit his....blog!
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This sounds just like our discussion in the John Allen thread yesterday, only at a higher level.
Posted by: Old Zhou at Jan 6, 2006 1:59:27 PM
Amy - Tell us how you really feel!
This piece is an excellent follow-up to the John Allen comments below and begs the question: what does it mean to be Roman Catholic? What does it mean to 'think with the Church'? I gave my answer to that question below.
On some important matters, Fr. McB is known for disregarding/disagreeing with the clear teachings of the Church. But at least he's consistent: it's no surprise he's soft on abortion.
Posted by: fr. frank at Jan 6, 2006 2:02:45 PM
You know, if John Allen wants to put the Church in America back together, maybe he should get a discussion going with Mother Angelica, Sr. Joan Chittister, Fr. McBrien, and Archbishop Chaput in his office.
Assuming the place does not explode, that might make an interesting book.
Posted by: Old Zhou at Jan 6, 2006 2:05:54 PM
All I've been hearing for thirty years is that the work of the Spirit cannot be confined, that it works far and wide, through all parts of the Body of Christ. I've been hearing that the old, hidebound hierarcy, trapped by its own insular vision and experience must start listening to that Spirit as it moves through the People of God, be open and unafraid of the new things God is doing all the time, everywhere.
Funny. That's exactly the same rationale the Episcopal Church has been using to justify its apostasy.
Posted by: Christopher Johnson at Jan 6, 2006 2:07:11 PM
After WW ll German citizens were taken on a tour of the concentration camps and were stunned at what they saw. Some day, after abortion is declared illegal, someone should take many Americans on a tour of the abortion clinics.
Posted by: george at Jan 6, 2006 2:25:14 PM
There is a danger for those who are isolated in ivory towers or that hang out with the those that pride themselves on "thinking outside the box." Reality can reach up and bit them. I love the often quoted line from the bewildered Ivy League professor who after the 1972 landslide victory of Richard Nixon said, "I don't understand. I can't think of a single person I know who voted for the man."
It seems Father McBrien and Dan Rather have something in common. They are upset at those who tried to ruin their little party. It never ceases to amaze me as to how some self described intellectuals talk a good game of being open but are anything but open. My wife and I were with a group of people at a happy hour recently. An "academic person" said to me, I like your Catholicreport.org website but it seems pretty conservative. Before I could say anything one couple voiced the opinion that it seemed pretty consistent with what the Church was saying. The academic person said, "Well that's I mean. You really don't believe in that anymore do you?" Fortunately, most said they did to which this academic person stared with a look of disbelief. The same disbelief that many have towards those of us who feel we don't have all the answer to life and feel free to admit it. We have no problem seeking these answers in the Church.
Posted by: Dave at Jan 6, 2006 2:27:27 PM
Hopefully John Allen reads this thread. It will give him an idea of why dialog is so difficult.
Posted by: SiliconValleySteve at Jan 6, 2006 2:29:53 PM
Wow, talk about your avoidance issues. Fr. McBrien not only actually fails to address the charges against Menino but manufactures enough straw men, ie. In their eyes, they alone are "authentic Catholics." and These ultra-conservative activists, for whom abortion is the only moral and political issue that counts that they could fruitfully populate a small village.
Posted by: paul at Jan 6, 2006 2:30:15 PM
Excellent fisking, Amy!
With it has come a new capacity of individuals, who could never be published by reputable newspapers and magazines
You just gotta love the nerve in the implied slam here with the term "reputable." So, all of the (conservative) Catholic bloggers are obviously disreputable.
I suppose Fr. McBrien considers the NY Times reputable? :-)
And, BTW, thanks for the plug!
Posted by: B Knotts at Jan 6, 2006 2:30:18 PM
It wasn't an Ivy League professor, it was celebrated film critic Pauline Kael, and she always claimed afterwards that she had meant it as a joke.
Posted by: James Kabala at Jan 6, 2006 2:31:07 PM
<>Italic off?<> Yes?
Posted by: Old Zhou at Jan 6, 2006 2:33:52 PM
Oops. My fault on the italics. Sorry. Didn't render that way on my browser.
Posted by: B Knotts at Jan 6, 2006 2:37:27 PM
"I thought that a Catholic who is anti-abortion expresses reservations about the efficacy of massive government spending as a way to aid the poor they're, like, not buying into the total Gospel of Life. How come the "advocates for the poor" get to leave out the unborn, consistently, always and ever, and get a pass?"
For the same reason that pro-lifers put little effort into anything else other than anti-abortion activism. They really don't buy seamless garment stuff either. You critique on the basis of "seamless garment" virtues which most pro-lifers wrapped on Bernadin's corpse before it was in the ground.
I've been a participant in pro-life marches and vigils, and I and others could never persuade one person formally associated with anti-abortion activism to show up for any anti-war rally, anti-death penalty rally, or anti-poverty rally. It wasn't their stuff.
The seamless garment issue is nothing more than a weapon anti-abortion Catholics use on peace and justice Catholics and vica versa. And especially vica versa.
And, to paraphrase a friend of mine, with its continued use as a weapon, it will be our Seamless Shroud.
Posted by: Daniel H. Conway at Jan 6, 2006 2:41:37 PM
I just did a post over at my place about some lovely artistic representations of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Maybe we could get someone with some drawing ability - hello, Hieronymus - to do an illustration of the dreaded Blog Beast scaling the Old Guard's ivory tower. I'm not a blog triumphalist either, but I'm sick to death of people dismissing the blogs because they're not the work of "reputable professionals." As if the reputable professional publications are above going after their enemies. Anybody recall NCR's takedown of Deal Hudson? I defend their right to break that story, and I'm not defending Hudson, but you could practically hear the bones crunching...
Posted by: Lickona at Jan 6, 2006 2:45:38 PM
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Christ didn't go around talking about his father--you know--God? I must have read the wrong book.
And I suppose he never went off to pray either......Gosh, I"m disappointed. (tongue in cheek, in case you can't tell)
Posted by: michigancatholic at Jan 6, 2006 2:46:33 PM
Oooh, ooh - Paul gave us another great image - the village of straw men!
Posted by: Lickona at Jan 6, 2006 2:48:35 PM
Lickona, we've got whole parishes full of them, if the progressives are to be believed.
Reminds me of all those poor 8 year old girls, raped by their daddies, who weren't able to get abortions pre-supreme court decision. They disappeared magically post-supreme court decision. Abortion-seekers, almost universally, are young women who've had a stint between the sheets with not-their-daddies!
Posted by: michigancatholic at Jan 6, 2006 2:54:22 PM
Lickona, we've got whole parishes full of them, if the progressives are to be believed.
Reminds me of all those poor 8 year old girls, raped by their daddies, who weren't able to get abortions pre-supreme court decision. They disappeared magically post-supreme court decision. Abortion-seekers, almost universally, are young women who've had a stint between the sheets with not-their-daddies.
Posted by: michigancatholic at Jan 6, 2006 2:54:54 PM
Regarding his musing on the blogosphere, it resembles the smear he made of the mega-selling "Catholicism for Dummies," sales of which no doubt have eclipsed those of McBrien's dissentient door-stopper. McBrien dismissed Fr. Trigilio's lack of theological credentials and was especially contemptuous of his popularity on EWTN. Fr. Dick is simply whistling past the graveyard.
Posted by: Rich Leonardi at Jan 6, 2006 3:01:48 PM
1. For those of you new to this neighborhood, the preceeding is what is called a fisking. Wherein our Blog Mistress takes apart the Rev. Father McBrien like a master chef to a piece of salmon. All the bones taken out before consumption.
2. Once again, the Rev. Father- Fave Rave Aging Catholic Dissident to the Mainstream Media- applies his slippery understanding of the magisterium in defending Mayor Mannino at the dinner. Both support areas they like, condemn areas they don't. Like The Big A.
3. Attention Daniel H. Conway- if pro-lifers seem obsessively focused, it's because this technique has allowed the movement to thrive, let alone survive, in contemporary culture. If you do one thing and one thing well, it better be OK. Not the fuzzy-wuzzy sentiments of (cue crying sound) 'advocates for the poor.' Many of whom want decreased numbers of baby poor. Like the statement by Rev. Herb Lusk, former pro football player turned Phila. minister-
almost 18 million black babies have been aborted between 1963 and 1999, and people don't want him to speak out. Which he does. So there, Dan.
4. Finally about Hizzoner The Mayor and those like him- anyone who makes references to 'what the nuns taught me' probably stopped his moral and spiritual development after that period. As authoritative as me discussing quantum physics. Where, in that realm, I don't know nuthin about nuthin.
Posted by: Gerard E. at Jan 6, 2006 3:04:58 PM
I mean, what a crushing disappointment it has to be to champion birth control and all manner of debauchery, hoping to deliver the church like a Christmas present to all kinds of cheering laity, only to find we love the old gal just like she is. We didn't like the "improvements" much and are ready to revile our "saviors"--the dissidents. Poor poor babies with their heads in paper bags, apparently--the only way you could miss the obvious like this.
Posted by: michigancatholic at Jan 6, 2006 3:05:12 PM
I love it when you fisk, Amy!
I'm reminded of a time on a parish liturgy committee where the entire liturgy committee voted (the pastor was absent for that meeting) to recommend celebrating the Holy Triduum liturgies according to the Missal (as one member said: "Have Father say the black words and do the red words."). The pastor trumped the recommendation and said he wanted to "tweak" the liturgy a bit so it would fit in with the wants and needs of the parish.
Shortly thereafter, a group of us (layfolk) were talking, somewhat disappointedly, about the results. One of the associate pastors came by and said, "Oh, you people don't know what good liturgy is. You're just so, so clerical."
Posted by: Tim Ferguson at Jan 6, 2006 3:07:00 PM
Well it isn't any mystery why *that* place is in the poor section of town, now is it?
Posted by: michigancatholic at Jan 6, 2006 3:07:24 PM
Would Fr. McBrien be better off sticking to his consulting for the "Da Vinci Code" movie?
"I think what bothered most critics was the fact that the question [of Jesus being married] was even being raised and that I was open to discussing it," he said in his Dec. 1 column.McBrien said he did receive positive reactions, as well.
While McBrien said in his Nov. 24 column that Jesus could in fact have been married, there is no evidence in "the New Testament or in Christian tradition that he was."
In McBrien's Catholicism book, he said there is no evidence that Jesus was married and that "what evidence does exist undermines such a claim," according to the Dec. 1, 2003 column.
McBrien also said Jesus' divinity still would not be compromised if he had, in fact, been married.
"As St. Paul reminded us in the Letter to the Hebrews, Jesus was like us in all things except sin (4:15). The sexual expression of love within marriage is not sinful," McBrien said in the Nov. 24 column.
Posted by: Old Zhou at Jan 6, 2006 3:10:58 PM
Father McBrien, is a loyal and orthodox defender of the faith. Unfortunately, the faith he is defending, and has been for decades, is not Catholicism.
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