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March 08, 2006
From high culture to...something else.
Look. I've not seen the last two episodes of Lost. I guess I will watch it tonight. What do I need to know in order to not be...lost?
(The last one I saw was the Sawyer-backstory ep, I think...where he ended up taking over the gun cache.)
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Repeat tonight, 3/8. Not totally sure which one it will be.
Also--I think--repeat next Wednesday, 3/15.
Last new episode was last Wednesday, 3/1. It was good. Highlights and key reveals:
1. Claire flashbacks. Repressed memories.
2. She was taken captive by the Others.
2.5. The Others and the Dharma people ARE ONE AND THE SAME. "Zeke" is a Dharma scientist, who wears a beard when in character as Zeke.
3. Ethan cared for her, was one of the Others/Dharma.
4. They had a nursery room for her, in preparation for her delivery. It was kind of creepy.
5. They were going to remove the baby surgically from Claire.
6. One of the Dharma people, a teenager, helped Claire escape.
7. Turns out the teenager was the daughter of the Frenchwoman.
8. Claire led Kate and the Frenchwoman back to the place where she had been held. It had been abandoned by the Others.
9. On a separate front, the captive Other, "Henry Gale", is starting to mess with Locke's head. Needling Locke about being second banana to Jack. This is exacerbating Locke's insecurities.
This is just the bare bones of what happened, and it's hard to convey all the atmospherics, which were quite effective.
Posted by: Larry at Mar 8, 2006 2:26:42 PM
Also, Henry Gale was captured by Rousseau episode before last. She led Sayid to where she had caught him in a tree-net-thingy. Sayid took Gale back to the hatch, where Sayid, Locke, and Jack are holding him prisoner in the armory. Gale says that he and his wife arrived on the island in a balloon (Henry Gale-Wizard of Oz-Australia "Oz"-balloon), that his wife got sick and died, and that he's never heard of the Others. Sayid is convinced that Gale is lying and is one of the Others (as was Rousseau), and Locke and Jack are unsure. Sayid tried torturing Gale to get the truth out of him, until Jack put a stop to it.
Also, there was additional backstory on Sayid, where we learn that he was taught how to torture by an American officer who captured him during Desert Storm and convinced him to torture fellow Iraqis to get information from them. One of the other soldiers in the American unit was Kate's (real) father.
Posted by: Karen LH at Mar 8, 2006 2:56:16 PM
Being empty nesters, my wife and I actually do squeeze some TV viewing time in on some evenings. Although we can't seem to remember what nights they are on, we do enjoy episodes of 24 and House when we remember to tune in. That said, we have never seen LOST, and all we know about it are the occasional adverts and the brief exchanges I've read on this blog. Am I right to assume that we would we be hopelessly "lost" if we started viewing now? Is it worth the trouble to try to catch on, or up? Thanks, and sorry for the selfish digression, Amy.
Posted by: Mike Petrik at Mar 8, 2006 3:04:26 PM
You can watch past episodes on line at --
http://www.watchlost.com/forum/index.php
Posted by: Bender at Mar 8, 2006 3:14:40 PM
The iTunes store sells the episodes for download at 1.99 a pop. Also, season one is available on DVD from NetFlix.
Posted by: Karen LH at Mar 8, 2006 3:27:55 PM
Good Lost discussion on this link:
http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm16.showMessageRange?topicID=4835.topic&start=9601&stop=9610
The peeps there dissect Lost with impressive knowledge and insight.
Posted by: Larry at Mar 8, 2006 3:45:54 PM
Here's the basic facts:
1) A plane crashed on an island. There's two groups of survivors - the front-enders and the back-enders.
2) On this island, in addition to the plane crash survivors are a few characters - a french woman, and a mysterious group of "others". The "others" are very bad people.
3) There's a big mystery about something called the Dharma project. We don't know what it is yet, except that it has bunkers all over the island. One of the bunkers has a clock that has to be reset every 108 minutes.
4) The two hottest guys on the show, Sawyer and Jack, fight a lot. So do Jack and the bald guy. And Jack and one of the back-enders. Basically Jack has anger management issues.
5) Everyone loves Hurley.
6) So the main plot points thus far are: Figure out who the Others are, where they come from, and what's going on with the Dharma project.
7) Every show features flashbacks from a character. The show tends to revolve around that character.
8) I don't care if Sayid is a crazy ex-Saddam soldier. He's hot. Seriously. Oh, he had a girlfriend but the back-ender girl accidentally shot her. I think he's still moping about it.
I think that's the big points. I would highly recommend getting the DVD's of the first season and watching them. I've missed much of the second season due to RCIA classes being on Wednesday night, but I plan on renting the Season 2 DVD's as soon as they come out.
Posted by: Cynthia at Mar 8, 2006 4:06:53 PM
Also, in last week's episode with Claire, Mr./Father Eko asked to be taken to the captive, Henry Gale. Basically, Eko confessed to Gale and repented of his killing of the two Others who tried to kidnap him his first night on the island. Eko said he repented of his actions and now he is on the righteous path. Gale asked why Eko was telling him, and by the look Eko gave him it was obvious Eko also believes Gale is an Other. Then, Eko took out a big knife and scared the heck out of me. I thought he was going to kill Gale or himself for a second, because he moved the knife across his own throat, but it turned out he was cutting off part of his beard. Does this have any religious significance? Something I read somewhere referenced Ezekiel doing the same thing(?)
Posted by: Jennifer at Mar 8, 2006 4:10:52 PM
www.televisionwithoutpity.com does complete recaps. And http://tvadvanced.com/index.asp?revid=twiztv provides transcripts of each episode.
Posted by: Woodeene at Mar 8, 2006 4:13:24 PM
Ezekiel 5:1-4. Given that it's Mr. Eko, there's probably a connection, but I don't really see it.
Posted by: Karen LH at Mar 8, 2006 4:34:03 PM
Kate's real father was in that unit? Huh? Can someone explain? I missed that.
Posted by: Cheeky Lawyer at Mar 8, 2006 4:39:51 PM
LOL at Cynthia's comments. That's the best summary I've seen so far. :)
And yes, Sawyer is... how to say it in a proper manner... erm...*cough*hot*cough*
Posted by: Veronica at Mar 8, 2006 4:41:04 PM
Actually, I think it was her purported father, not her real father. My mistake. (I missed it also, but saw a mention of it when surfing some of the LOST fora.) Here's one link:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-10-18-lost-clues_x.htm?csp=34
Posted by: Karen LH at Mar 8, 2006 4:55:54 PM
Kate's father was the guy who first approached Sayid about translating, not the guy in aviators who later convinced him to do it. He appears later in the episode when they're all riding in the back of a truck; he asks Sayid if he has any kids while looking at a picture of young Kate.
Posted by: InAGlassDarkly at Mar 8, 2006 5:59:09 PM
Tonight's episode is a repeat of one from last year in which Sawyer and Kate try to find out what's in the late federal marshall's metal case.
Locke appears to be losing it and we think he may go over to the Others. "Gale" has worked on his mind and Sayid's so cleverly I think he may be a psychologist.
It was nice that they finally gave Claire a chance to do something.
Posted by: Sandra Miesel at Mar 8, 2006 7:02:17 PM
Mike,
I faced the same dilemma earlier this year, but rented the first season and have been playing catch-up ever since. In some respects I am still Lost (sorry) on the storyline, but Cynthia's summary did hit the key points!
BTW, I found it enhanced the whole "viewing experience" to watch those first episodes back-to-back without commercial interruption.
Posted by: Cheryl at Mar 8, 2006 8:02:45 PM
Wikipedia has good episode recaps.
Posted by: John P Sheridan at Mar 8, 2006 9:27:24 PM
Thank you all. You're the best!
Posted by: Mike Petrik at Mar 8, 2006 11:04:41 PM
Okay, so I've gone back and rewatched the last bit with Locke and the Gale Other. If you can, check it out, because I'm quite certain it can be read one of two ways- Locke is mad and insecure, or Locke is a clever man messing with Gale's head. That is, Locke knows Gale can hear him, knows what he's up to (whether or not Gale is an Other), and is messing with him. I really favor this option, because it would be a bit out of character for Locke to suddenly be so susceptible to lame Jedi mind tricks, and because the writers of the show are usually a bit more careful about not suddenly shifting personalities for the sake of a plot turn.
Posted by: chris at Mar 8, 2006 11:53:32 PM
Did I make a faulty identification? I thought Henry Gale in the bunker lockup was the same person as Ethan. Or are they just similar looking?
If not, that would explain why Claire didn't tell anyone about him.
And what's the deal with how the bunker is being used? Aren't all the other people on the beach aware of it by now? Don't they all want to do laundry and take showers, use the toilet and cook hot food and such using the electricity there? Or are those dozen or so people that are major characters really keeping the whole place a secret still?
Posted by: LeeAnn at Mar 9, 2006 1:14:23 AM
Cynthia,
For your viewing pleasure.
Rent a DVD of the movie "The English Patient". The actor who plays Sayid has a leading role in it.
Posted by: inhocsig at Mar 9, 2006 5:17:02 AM
LeeAnn,
Ethan was shot by Charlie in the first season.
Posted by: Dan at Mar 9, 2006 10:07:22 AM
The hatch is known and used by all the castaways--they divvied up the food for a party early in the season. But it's not convenient for the show to have extras traipsing in and out and the core characters seem to have monopolized the number-pinching shifts.
Locke is subtle but he's been out-shamaned by Eko, is in conflict with Jack, and his Island of salvation hasn't played out the way he expected. So he may be going into a breakdown, not playing a deeper game.
Posted by: Sandra Miesel at Mar 9, 2006 10:32:45 AM
Chris, I had that thought (hope?) too about Locke, but I agree with Sandra that the writers are playing it straight up. Locke is genuinely upset and manipulable, as portrayed in the 3/1 eppy. He's not trying to outfox Gale. IMHO, this is sloppy characterization and poor writing on the show's part. This is not the Locke we came to know in the first season. This is a pettier, weaker Locke, and the shift is too sudden, too jarring.
Posted by: Larry at Mar 9, 2006 12:19:46 PM
Wait, wasn't there an episode just recently with Ethan in it? Where he was spying on them on the beach? Or am I getting confused because they have had so many flashback episodes this season to introduce the back-enders? Oh, I give up! I'll just have to read some plot summaries to get it straight.
I also think the sudden change in Locke is unbelieveable.
Posted by: LeeAnn at Mar 9, 2006 12:53:07 PM
Re: Locke. I dunno. He's always seemed a little less than stable to me. Think about the Locke we've gotten to know in the flashbacks—talking with the phone sex lady who he calls "Helen" after his ex-girlfriend, stalking his father, his uncontrolled rage in the walkabout office in Australia. Plus, think about Boone's death. He was hardly playing with a full deck at that time. No, Locke's breakdown, just on the heels of his loss of the guns, seems just about right to me.
Considering the emotional state of everyone on the island, not the least of all their leaders, I think Libby the shrink should be keeping herself a little more busy than she is. Ditto for "Father" Eko (who I think is builtding a church with all his marked logs, btw).
Mike, we bought the first season, watched those episodes like crack addicts, then downloaded all the episodes that were out for the second season off of itunes (1.99 and so worth it). It will take less time than you think to catch up, and I highly recommend not jumping in mid-season.
Posted by: Emily Stimpson at Mar 9, 2006 1:11:47 PM
Yeah, buy the episodes on iTunes. Pretty handy deal. Peace.
Posted by: + Alan at Mar 9, 2006 4:14:27 PM
