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June 01, 2006
RBTE Report
Yesterday morning, I spoke in Milwaukee to a smaller, but quite interested and engaged group at the Milwaukee Archdiocesan center. Auxiliary Bishop Sklba offered a few thoughts on the canon of Scripture before it was my turn and Archbishop Dolan was in attendance, as well. I'd never given this talk in front one, much less two bishops before. It's a good thing that the talk, even with its various permutations for different groups, is etched in my brain, and it's a good thing the bishops were sitting off to the side, out of my direct line of sight, else I might have found it a bit unnerving.
(Note - the Archbishop Cousins Center is a former high school seminary, and it's big. It's rather astonishing to think of the halls filled with young men considering the vocation to the priesthood. In his walking through the halls with the stroller-imprisoned Michael the Baby during my talk, Michael studied a display outside the Archdiocesan archives - materials from the Vatican II era, including a letter written by, I believe, the Archbishop (or perhaps an underling) to the priests of the Archdiocese in September, after the Council ended. He wrote them that beginning on the First Sunday of Advent, the Mass would be in the vernacular instead of Latin, and that should be time enough to prepare the people for the change. 3 months. Wow. I've often said here that if I were in graduate school these days, I'd pick as my research topic the implementation of the liturgical changes after V2 - I'd love to get down to the nitty-gritty and read over the diocesan communications and so on to see how it was done, and what was foreseen.)
Then it was over to Archbishop Dolan's residence, where we enjoyed a very nice lunch - Archbishop Dolan is amazingly energetic, enthusiastic and very patient with children (he has 12 nieces and nephews, he said.). Someday perhaps I will have a meal with a bishop in which I am not constantly on edge about my children potentially destroying their historic homes (remember Charleston and Bishop Baker...that's even a more historic home, and we were actually supposed to stay there until Michael thought the better of it considering artifacts like the Samuel F.B. Morse paintings and all).
Heck, someday I will have a meal in my own home without being on edge about potential destruction. And then I'll be all sentimental about the good old days. Yeah, I know.
Then to Chicago- actually St. Charles, a far western suburb of Chicago where the RBTE is always held. This was a shorter visit than usual - we got there around 3, I had to go do a photo shoot for OSV, which was using the occasion to do publicity shots for 4 of its authors who were present. Outside of a Methodist Church - why? Because the Methodist church was older, beautiful stonework. The Catholic church - well, standing in front of a greyish brick wall with no character would sort of miss the point.
Saw many old friends - Jim Manney and Joe Durepos of Loyola, Jim Cosgrove, associated with John Michael Talbot's ministry, Joan Wester Anderson, Fr. Jim Schmitmeyer, the "Blue Collar Preacher," and Vinita Hampton Wright, who edited a couple of my Loyola books, and who is the author of several novels, including her newest, highly acclaimed Dwelling Places, a copy of which she kindly signed and gave to me.
And yes, Ron Rolheiser and the St. Louis Jesuits were there at the big massive book/CD signing session. I saw them. They were seen. Anything else you want me to say?
What's coming out that's new and exciting? Not much. I haven't looked through the catalogues yet, but what was on display there didn't grab me. I'd actually read several of the big titles publishers were pushing - Jim Martin's excellent and engaging My Life with the Saints, the John Cornwell memoir Seminary Boy and that dreadful book describing how the bishops killed women's religious orders, Double Crossed. I did grab a bunch of bound galleys from the Doubleday table - Ben Witherington's What Have They Done With Jesus? , due in October, which promises to be another contribution to the growing, accessible body of literature inviting us to reexamine the assumptions so many of us have absorbed about what can and cannot be learned from early Christian texts.
The History at the End of the World by Jonathan Kirsch is about the impact of the Book of Revelation on world history, and David Gibson's new book on Benedict, of which I am skeptical, I confess, but will wait until reading it (naturally) to comment on.
On the trip, I read a couple of books - Philip Jenkins' newest, coming this fall, The New Faces of Christianity: Believing the Bible in the Global South, and Philip Roth's Everyman. No, I did not make a vow to read books only by men named "Philip."
More later...
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Are you a speed reader?
Posted by: Will Barrett at Jun 1, 2006 12:34:07 PM
I remember the switch to the vernacular that Advent, though I believe it was in 1964 and that the Council had one more year to go. It was a case of BOOM, there it was. Not that it hadn't been talked about, but when it happend, that was another story. That would be a multi-volume history, rather than just a doctoral dissertation, I bet.
As always, I get tired reading about your energy, but admiringly tired.
Posted by: bruce cole at Jun 1, 2006 1:09:51 PM
I remember coming home from first grade and telling my parents, "Sister says you have to remember to say 'Holy, holy, holy' and not 'Sanctus' anymore. She said we had to remind our parents"...Sister wore a big white wimple and a big white bib, big black shoes and a big black rosary...at least they loom large in my memory :)
Posted by: LadyHatton at Jun 1, 2006 1:14:32 PM
The Jenkins book is only 193 pages of text, and the Roth is quite short - 182 small pages.
I've been reading Burleigh's Earthly Powers for three weeks and I'm still not even halfway through yet...
Posted by: amywelborn at Jun 1, 2006 1:28:14 PM
Hey Amy --- quite coincidentally I just put up a link to Archbishop Dolan's talk from the Evangelical Catholic institute in Madison up at my blog. It just came into the inbox a couple of days back ... he absolutely rocked!
Posted by: Gashwin at Jun 1, 2006 2:12:17 PM
I have studied a bit on the changes to the missal after Vatican II, and in reality, the change from the first vernacular being allowed to what is more or less the typical mass we have today, and that is a mass with altar girls, communion under both species and EMHCs took 30 years to take hold so to speak.
The missal that came out of Vatican II directly was the 65 missal, and it was still the Tridentine Missal with some minor modifications, and the rubrics for the 65 missal were more or less the same as the 62 missal, with the exception of mass facing the people as an option and some added vernacular(The canon was still said silently in Latin).
Even after the Novus Ordo came out, it was still common to find parishes that used altar rails(and communion in the hand wasnt approved untill 77) no female lectors, and even priests saying all 3 readings, especially for the very traditional "ethnic" conregations well into the 70s, thats the reason why opposition to the changes was suprisingly mute from many quarters.
Posted by: John B at Jun 1, 2006 3:21:22 PM
I've often said here that if I were in graduate school these days, I'd pick as my research topic the implementation of the liturgical changes after V2 - I'd love to get down to the nitty-gritty and read over the diocesan communications and so on to see how it was done, and what was foreseen.)
I have a friend who was about my age (mid- to late-thirties) during the immediate aftermath of V2. He was on every parish council he could join and eagerly anticipated the changes the Council would bring. He told me that then he and his friends hounded his priest to excise every trace of Latin from the Mass. I asked him why, since the conciliar documents call for no such thing. He more or less shrugged, telling me, "It's what everyone implementing the reforms was doing." The catch is that he's now what a "progressive" priest friend of his used to call "a cranky conservative." At some point, I suspect he and many of his generation experienced a bit of postconciliar blowback.
Posted by: Rich Leonardi at Jun 1, 2006 6:26:17 PM
Archbishop Dolan is a wonderful man. We are lucky to have him.
It was good to meet you the other night, Amy. Your talk was excellent.
Posted by: Donna V. at Jun 1, 2006 11:44:15 PM
Amy:
Helen Pre-Jean was supposed to be a main speaker at RBTE. Did you hear her and if so was bishop Dolan present?
Posted by: Confchris at Jun 2, 2006 11:54:28 AM
I'm amused that Ron Rolheiser and Amy Welborn were at the same venue. I don't know quite know why but...
Posted by: TSO at Jun 2, 2006 1:00:52 PM
Is Fr. Rolheiser a heretic too? It's so hard to keep up. Best go burn his book, I guess.
Posted by: anon at Jun 3, 2006 11:01:47 AM
Before you tackle your "research topic the implementation of the liturgical changes after V2" you might want to consider reading the section of G. Wiegel's biography of JPII, "Witness to Hope" where the author describes how the Archbishop Wotyla of Krakow implemented V2: catechesis first, then implementation from the highest level (archdiocese) to the lowest (parish). Would that all the bishops of America had followed his example ...
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