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September 25, 2006
The Pope and the Muslims
Here's the text of what he said. (Delivered in French, btw)
Why is inter-religious dialogue necessary? What does it accomplish?
Inter-religious and inter-cultural dialogue is a necessity for building together this world of peace and fraternity ardently desired by all people of good will. In this area, our contemporaries expect from us an eloquent witness to show all people the value of the religious dimension of life.
Likewise, faithful to the teachings of their own religious traditions, Christians and Muslims must learn to work together, as indeed they already do in many common undertakings, in order to guard against all forms of intolerance and to oppose all manifestations of violence; as for us, religious authorities and political leaders, we must guide and encourage them in this direction. Indeed, "although considerable dissensions and enmities between Christians and Muslims may have arisen in the course of the centuries, the Council urges all parties that, forgetting past things, they train themselves towards sincere mutual understanding and together maintain and promote social justice and moral values as well as peace and freedom for all people" (Declaration, Nostra Aetate, 3). The lessons of the past must therefore help us to seek paths of reconciliation, in order to live with respect for the identity and freedom of each individual, with a view to fruitful co-operation in the service of all humanity. As Pope John Paul II said in his memorable speech to young people at Casablanca in Morocco, "Respect and dialogue require reciprocity in all spheres, especially in that which concerns basic freedoms, more particularly religious freedom. They favour peace and agreement between peoples" (no. 5).
Dear friends, I am profoundly convinced that in the current world situation it is imperative that Christians and Muslims
engage with one another in order to address the numerous challenges that present themselves to humanity, especially those concerning the defence and promotion of the dignity of the human person and of the rights ensuing from that dignity. When threats mount up against people and against peace, by recognizing the central character of the human person and by working with perseverance to see that human life is always respected, Christians and Muslims manifest their obedience to the Creator, who wishes all people to live in the dignity that he has bestowed upon them.
Dear friends, I pray with my whole heart that the merciful God will guide our steps along the paths of an ever more authentic mutual understanding. At this time when for Muslims the spiritual journey of the month of Ramadan is beginning, I address to all of them my cordial good wishes, praying that the Almighty may grant them serene and peaceful lives. May the God of peace fill you with the abundance of his Blessings, together with the communities that you represent!
I would ask you to read this carefully and note Benedict's take. Note that what is so common in conversations about such things in this country, especially on a less-academic level - a declaration that it is vitally important to engage in dialogue so that we expand our own theological vision is not part of Benedict's framework.
And if you read Nostra Aetate, that should be no surprise.
The point is this: we live in a world fraught with the threat of violence, and deep with suffering. The purpose of inter-religious dialouge is to diminish these threats, to clear the way so that people of all religious backgrounds can work together to alleviate human suffering. And you can quibble theologically with that all you want, and fuss that the only inter-religious dialogue necessary is, "Convert," but that is simply not the reality of the world. The urgency of the suffering of so many in this world requires that an element of our Christian witness be the deep commitment to serve the poor, a commitment that in order to be lived out, must journey on a road with those who do not share our Christian faith. And before anyone jumps on the question of "Well, then this just leaves substantive faith sharing in the cold in favor of "charity" and "justice" - read Deus Caritas Est. And really, no conversation about what Benedict is saying at this moment can take place without drawing on that encyclical as well as the declaration Dominus Iesus, which carries then-Cardinal Ratzinger's mark, as well as what Benedict is saying to Muslims in this moment.
And it's fairly safe to say, that a strong undercurrent in the Pope's words continues to be violence and continues to lay the burden on those who would justify religiously-motivated violence. That comes through loud and clear, I"d say.
It is worth noting - the meeting was broadcast live via Vatican radio and television. The Pope delivered his address, then spent the rest of the time greeting the participants, who came from every Muslim nation with diplomatic relations with the Holy See - Sudan was the only one that did not participate.
(And note, not all nations have diplomatic relations with the Holy See - among Muslim nations, Saudi Arabia is one.)
The Vatican Radio report of the meeting can be heard here.
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Comments
Amy, Thank you for referencing Deus Caritas Est in regards to this issue. We only need look to contemparary saints such as Fr. Charles Foucauld, Mother Teresa, Edith Stein & an endless list of others to see that they followed Jesus in his example of engaging His contemporary world in love...not by closing Himself off from it but by living & dying for it.
Posted by: GTB at Sep 25, 2006 9:20:53 AM
Yes, Deus caritas est was very clear that charity is offered to all, without regard for religious affiliation. But Benedict has always been very clear that syncretism is no part of ecumenism or irreligious dialogue and it is comforting to see him reiterate it today. He also reiterated that violence is no part of an authentic religious tradition, either. So much for the constant din of the news reports that he has been "apologizing" for his Regensburg remarks.
Posted by: Janice at Sep 25, 2006 9:25:50 AM
A puzzling paragraph in the Pope's speach is this one:
"Dear friends, I am profoundly convinced that in the current world situation it is imperative that Christians and Muslims engage with one another in order to address the numerous challenges that present themselves to humanity, especially those concerning the defence and promotion of the dignity of the human person and of the rights ensuing from that dignity."
My impression is that Islam has no concept of the human person, or of the dignity of the human person, nor of rights ensuing from that dignity. The concept of the human person is one that flowed in the 3rd and 4th century from Christian efforts to understand the divine persons of the trinity.
Any muslims out there? How does a muslim respond to the concept of rights flowing from the dignity of the human person?
Posted by: DelRayVA at Sep 25, 2006 11:47:19 AM
So much for the constant din of the news reports that he has been "apologizing" for his Regensburg remarks.
Don't worry. They will get this wrong too. The MSM will miss the fact that he did not call for mere dialogue, but an "authentic" dialogue and "mutual" understanding which, in order to be authentic and mutual, requires not only speaking truthfully and not diminishing your own beliefs, but also requires reciprocity, which the Pope has emphasized and repeated on several occasions.
No doubt the Muslim world will get it wrong too. But this was no dhimmi speaking to them. This was no one-sided apology. He did not say that "we are wrong" and leave the implication that Muslims are always right. Again and again the Pope has stated that he expects everyone, including Islamic countries to "guard against all forms of intolerance and to oppose all manifestations of violence"; that they need to "respect the differences"; and that "respect and dialogue require reciprocity in all spheres, especially in that which concerns basic freedoms, more particularly religious freedom."
Posted by: Bender at Sep 25, 2006 12:02:00 PM
KEY term in whole "dialog" exercise is repicrocity, Be careful making assuming we mean the same thing when nation states exchange diplomats: the (OIC) Organization of the Islamic Conference Headquarters in Jeddah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has geo-political aspirations closer to "Empire" than some may realize, (37th anniversary of founding today, rather than sign onto UN Human Rights Treaty they wrote their own) see quote from www.myaa.arq.com
(emphasis mine)
"New Islamic Landscapes - Islamic Morphologies
The Organization of Islamic Conference is an intergovernmental organization which represents a grouping of nations and a pooling of sovereignty and identity. Our project for the OIC Headquarters can be seen as a metaphor for a Pan- Islamic Architecture which is appropriate for the geo-political aspirations of the OIC.
The scheme avoids the use of derivative Islamic symbols which have contributed much to the demise of Islamic Architecture today and instead considers the universal phenomenon of Islamic space through spatial sequencing and the integration of surface, structure and geometric forms.
Islamic architecture, like the Islamic nation is not a homogenous entity but a variant of culture and context. The scheme is based on an abstraction of everyday vernacular morphologies common in the Islamic World and the desert landscapes of Arabian Peninsular which form the immediate context for our site.
Sacred Space
In Islam there is no separation between the secular and the sacred. The OIC scheme provides an Intergovernmental Assembly Hall, Secretariat Tower, Television Studios, Exhibition spaces which are orientated to the direction of prayer and connected metaphorically and physically to the Mosque in the OIC gardens.
The symbolic Secretariat Tower is clad in a geometric Islamic pattern which rises out from the main building mass. The exo-skeleton structural arrangement allows the internal program of the tower to flexible. This flexibility enables the rigid managerial structure the OIC Secretariat to be dismantled and reconstituted to give new and unexpected programmatic combinations."
The Phillipines was denied Observer status (despite the sizable segment population confessing the Moslem faith, as Russia and Thailand enoy, shown pink in map).
Ali Mangera and Yvars Bravo are also the architects of the futuristic
Abbey Mills Islamic Centre foreseen for a site close to the 2012 London Olympics
"With a planned capacity of 40,000 worshippers, to be expanded to take 70,000 if demand grows, the proposed Abbey Mills Islamic Centre would be Britain's biggest religious building. The largest mosque now in Morden, south London, holds 10,000 people, while Liverpool's Anglican cathedral, the largest Christian church in the UK, holds 3,000.) became finalists in the competition to build the new headquarters for the "Umma"
(their website is in English or Castellano, that's Euro-Spanish, replete with amusing typos e.g. "Greace" for Greece and "abolition" instead of ablution)
Posted by: Clare Krishan at Sep 25, 2006 12:17:03 PM
mea culpa - "became finalists in the competition to build the new headquarters for the "Umma"" is my own humiliating typo!
Posted by: Clare Krishan at Sep 25, 2006 12:22:11 PM
A couple of us talking after Mass today took particular note of this remark of yours:
"Note that what is so common in conversations about such things in this country, especially on a less-academic level - a declaration that it is vitally important to engage in dialogue so that we expand our own theological vision is not part of Benedict's framework."
Precisely. And amen to that. B16 has defined the (high) ground and the rules; it is up to the Muslims to decide if they're in the game or not. But the same is also being asked of a lot of people right here in the Church. The Church need not bear a sword, but it must be militant.
Posted by: Mike Walsh, MM at Sep 25, 2006 1:20:16 PM
Maybe the Western media won't get it, but it appears that the Arab media did. According to the Corriere della Sera, Al Jazira complained that the Pope did not offer an apology but instead offered an invitation to renounce violence and enter into a frank dialogue.
Posted by: Dan at Sep 25, 2006 1:20:24 PM
I read the fascinating speculative news item on CWNews that Pope Benedict has requested the opportunity to address the faculty of
a certain famous Islamic theological centre
in Cairo, Egypt and none other than the often mentioned Arbp Fitzgerald has been entrusted with the task of making it happen. Wow- this Pope is not only clear-minded; he's hard-headed and lion-hearted. He is clearly not going to let go of the opening so hard won at Regensburg. I don't know what to think of this latest news; but regardless I am full of love and admiration (and anxiety) for the Pope.
Posted by: Rose at Sep 25, 2006 4:26:12 PM
Rose, I'm with you on that..WOW is the only word to describe this Shepherd who is obviously not a hireling.
Posted by: GTB at Sep 26, 2006 8:51:28 AM





















