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September 20, 2006
The Pope's Censor
A former Curial staffer clears it all up:
Jesuit Father Tom Michel, who served on the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue from 1981 to 1994 as the Vatican's top expert on Islam, writing in the Turkish political journal Yeni Asya this week said "the deeper question is, why did the pope say what he did in Regensburg?"
Father Michel, a member of the Indonesia Jesuit province, revealed that he was contacted in recent days by many Muslims, as well as Christian bishops, diplomats and journalists, who asked him: How could this have happened? Was there no one to urge the pope to change his text? How can it be prevented from happening again?
One of his "most useful tasks" while serving on the pontifical council, he said, "was to look over the late Pope John Paul II's speeches to Muslims to see if there was anything that might be considered offensive in them, and if there was something of that nature, to propose changes for the Pope."
He recalled that "Pope John Paul II was very conscientious lest he accidentally say something offensive or disrespectful to Muslims or to the followers of other religions."
On the small number of occasions that Father Michel detected problems in papal texts, "the Pope always corrected those questionable phrases before delivering the talk." As a result, "there was never a controversy like we are experiencing today."
While "every pope has his own style," John Paul II "was always ready to make good use of his Vatican staff," Father Michel said. "My feeling is that a mistake of the order we saw last week in Regensburg would not have been possible with that pope," he added.
Father Michel also pointed out that John Paul II "had trained scholars in Islamic studies on his staff," citing Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald as well as himself. Archbishop Fitzgerald was president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue until Pope Benedict reassigned him earlier this year as nuncio to Egypt and the Arab League.
"With Archbishop Fitzgerald's departure, there remains no one in the Vatican who is properly trained in Islamic faith practice and tradition, and the lack becomes glaringly evident on occasions like that of the Regensburg address," Father Michel wrote.
"Had the Pope's talk been reviewed and controlled by any competent staff person, they would immediately have told the Pope that the citation of Manuel II Paleologus, which was in fact marginal to the Pope's main point, should not be included in the speech," the Jesuit scholar stated.
The Byzantine emperor, he pointed out, "was not a Christian theologian, nor a scholar knowledgeable on Islamic matters, nor a peacemaker, and since he was writing more than seven centuries ago, his observations have more historical than practical relevance for today."
Some observers say "the Pope did not intend to offend Muslims," Father Michel noted. He too believes this, but it is "beside the point," he said.
"Most of the time when we offend others, we do not intend to do so," he explained. "Rather, we do so because of ignorance or lack of sensitivity. In such cases, an apology is required." For this reason, "it is also proper for the Pope to ask forgiveness for his offensive remarks, even though, as I believe, he did not intend to offend."
Pope Benedict "offered that apology clearly and formally" on Sunday Sept. 17, Father Michel said. "I pray that Muslims will be generous and extend forgiveness."
The priest concluded his article with a call to Christians and Muslims alike, especially religious leaders, heads of nations, members of the diplomatic corps, professors and journalists. He asked them "to urge the new Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, to make sure than any future statements about Islam or other religions be reviewed, and if need be, revised by competently trained persons, so that, in the case of Islam, every expression by Catholic leaders reflect the directive of the Second Vatican Council that 'the Catholic Church should show respect and esteem for Muslims.'"
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All I can say is that I'm sure glad that papal text are no longer vetted by bureaucrats such as Fr. Michel.
Posted by: Ignacio at Sep 20, 2006 10:47:48 AM
"Had the Pope's talk been reviewed and controlled by any competent staff person, . . ."
What arrogance. What hubris. Controlled? Competent? Staff person??? Thankfully, he is no longer there.
Now, I'm sure that some observers will say "Father Michel did not intend to offend the Pope or Catholics," but it is beside the point. Most of the time when we offend others, we do not intend to do so. Rather, we do so because of ignorance or lack of sensitivity. In such cases, an apology is required.
For this reason, it is also proper for Father Michel to ask forgiveness for his offensive remarks, even though, as I believe, he did not intend to offend.
Posted by: Bender at Sep 20, 2006 10:53:03 AM
And as for the Byzantine emperor not being "a Christian theologian, nor a scholar knowledgeable on Islamic matters, nor a peacemaker," perhaps he was too busy looking out his window seeing Muslim armies attacking and laying seige to his city. Perhaps he was too busy dealing first-hand with the practical violent and deadly reality of Islam, rather than pointy-head theoretical concerns from the comfort of some modern office.
Posted by: Bender at Sep 20, 2006 10:57:24 AM
Father Michel appears to be playing the part of the good Dhimmi over their in Indonesia.
Posted by: Tim F. at Sep 20, 2006 10:58:20 AM
I agree that Fr. Michel's remark that "Had the Pope's talk been reviewed and controlled by any competent staff person, . . ." was wrong. However, he seems correct on the larger point: if someone looks at the talks ahead of time and discusses them with the Pope, then such a blow up like this is much less likely to happen. And, by the way, "The Pope's Censor" headline is misleading: someone in Fr. Michel's former position merely proposes, the Pope decides.
Posted by: t mahoney at Sep 20, 2006 11:04:05 AM
All I can say is that I'm thankful that our dearest pope Benedict doesn't have spineless PC 'advisors' like Father Michel around. Good for him!
Posted by: Veronica at Sep 20, 2006 11:06:38 AM
Is it correct to presume that a member of the staff did NOT review this talk?
Posted by: B. Schulz at Sep 20, 2006 11:09:26 AM
t mahoney, you say:
"However, he seems correct on the larger point: if someone looks at the talks ahead of time and discusses them with the Pope, then such a blow up like this is much less likely to happen."
You seem to be assuming that such blowups are always bad things. I think that what the Pope has done is lanced a boil, which in this case is a very good thing.
Posted by: TF at Sep 20, 2006 11:11:13 AM
We are already starting to see this story morph into the Pope supposedly making a gaffe and how it might have been prevented.
Pathetic.
The ONLY news story here is the ease with which so many Muslims -- including prominent Muslim leaders -- resort to violence and threats of violence in response to imagined or exaggerated insults. They are beyond reason, and beyond parody.
It does no one any good to focus (as so many cowards in the West would prefer to do) on the supposed "provocation." Six months ago it was Denmark; today it is the Pope. And we all know perfectly well that within the next 6 months there will be Days of Rage against some other unwitting Western "provacateur."
The problem here is on the Muslim side. Entirely. Honesty requires that that fact be acknowledged.
Posted by: Simon at Sep 20, 2006 11:13:38 AM
Meanwhile Rod Dreher reports that three Christian farmers are to be executed in Indonesia for their supposed role in the deaths of "scores" of Muslims. Of course, there won't be any objective outsiders investigating whether the charges are true or not.
The arrogance of Fr. Michel is appalling.
Posted by: Christine at Sep 20, 2006 11:15:23 AM
All right, so the argument here is basically that "I, a staff member at the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue used to check JPII's speeches to muslims for potential offenses. This line never would have slipped through then. So the problem is obviously the recent changes at that Pontifical Council under the current Pope, notably Abp. Fitzgerald's reassignment."
But the Regensburg address was a speech to academics, not to Muslims, and it wasn't primarily a talk about ecumenism. So it's unlikely that the Pontifical Commission on Interreligious Dialogue would have ever been handed the speech regardless of who was on staff.
It seems unlikely that the speech was not reviewed beforehand by someone from the Secretariat of State. Does the fact that the line made it through intact mean that the possible problem was brought up, and the Pope went ahead anyway? Or was it missed? in the latter event, does this have anything to do with diplomacy intentionally being given a lower priority in this papacy, as indicated by the installation of non-diplomat Bertone? The coincidence of this occurring just after Bertone's installation makes the inner conspiract theorist wonder whether Sodano loyalists who still staff the Secretariat of State let the remark slip through their proofreading on purpose, having an inkling about what would happen, in order to demonstrate why diplomacy is important.
Posted by: tt at Sep 20, 2006 11:22:30 AM
The fact is that 26 years of JPII's warm fuzzy treatment has yielded very bad fruit. Persecution of Christians in almost every moslem country has gotten worse. Acts of violence by moslem radicals have become common. Why not declare the old policy a failure and try something new. John Paul was a great man but he could well have made a tactical error in refusing to discuss problems. BXVI's method might be less pleasant but it at least doesn't deny the huge problems that are there.
Posted by: Randy at Sep 20, 2006 11:25:50 AM
I agree, Randy. I think JPII was overly optimistic in his views of the Muslim world and Pope Benedict is seeing things through glasses that are a little less rose-colored. I hope the Holy Father doesn't allow Muslim stridency to bully him into backing down from his view that there must be reciprocity between Muslims and Christians, especially in those Muslim countries where Christians are not permitted to openly practice their faith.
Posted by: Christine at Sep 20, 2006 11:30:26 AM
Ah, another 'if only Fitz was still around' fellow. Fr. Thomas Reese has been quoted as indicating the assignment of Archbishop Fitzgerald to Egypt was the "worst mistake" of Benedict's papacy. Fr. Reese and Fr. Michel should take a lesson from their hero, who, tracked down by the industrious press indicated that he was 'on retreat in France' (must...resist...temptation...of uncharitable...sarcasm) and had nothing to say on the matter.
Posted by: stunted at Sep 20, 2006 11:31:09 AM
On the small number of occasions that Father Michel detected problems in papal texts, "the Pope always corrected those questionable phrases before delivering the talk." As a result, "there was never a controversy like we are experiencing today."
While "every pope has his own style," John Paul II "was always ready to make good use of his Vatican staff," Father Michel said. "My feeling is that a mistake of the order we saw last week in Regensburg would not have been possible with that pope," he added.
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"Had the Pope's talk been reviewed and controlled by any competent staff person, they would immediately have told the Pope that the citation of Manuel II Paleologus, which was in fact marginal to the Pope's main point, should not be included in the speech," the Jesuit scholar stated.
What an arrogant, self-serving load of crap!
Posted by: Jay Anderson at Sep 20, 2006 11:55:31 AM
Please, please, please don't kill anymore nuns or burn anymore churches, and we will try to be more sensitive in the future. We promise not to mention the beheadings, the tortures, the genital mutilations, the homicide bombings of women and children, the hatred of Jews and Christians, the enslavement of Africans, the debasement of women, oops, sorry.
Posted by: tony at Sep 20, 2006 12:04:26 PM
Three cheers for Benedict XVI for speaking the truth, but I live in fear that some Islamic thug inflamed by his great world religion will find a way of assassinating the Pope to gain access to the 75 virgins.
Posted by: Dan Crawford at Sep 20, 2006 12:21:13 PM
It is amazing that people analyzing the lecture of a man as brilliant as Pope Benedict do not consider the fact that he knew very well what he was saying and what its probable effect would be.
The Stratfor Geopolitical Intelligence Report, said yesterday:
"...Thus, there are at least two ways to view Benedict's speech politically.
One view derives from the fact that the pope is watching the U.S.-jihadist war....This perspective would explain the timing of the pope's statement, but the general thrust of his remarks has more to do with Europe.
There is an intensifying tension in Europe over the powerful wave of Muslim immigration...."
In effect, the Pope was siding with the U.S. and the E.U. against Islam as long as it continues to endorse violence as opposed to reason.
Read the entire report: http://northlandcatholicii.blogspot.com/2006/09/practical-political-analysis-of.html
Posted by: Ray from MN at Sep 20, 2006 12:24:45 PM
"However, he seems correct on the larger point: if someone looks at the talks ahead of time and discusses them with the Pope, then such a blow up like this is much less likely to happen."
If only the likes of Fr. Michel had been around think of how the martyrs of the Coliseum could have been spared!
The bottom line is that the only way to appease Muslims is the apostatize. I pray that that never happens.
Posted by: Mary Alexander at Sep 20, 2006 12:35:30 PM
Fr. Michel and his ilk represent exactly the Dhimmi mindset we need to get away from. The Pope's job is to bear witness to the Truth, not kowtow to Muslim sensibilities.
Also, contary to what Michel says, Manuel II was known by many in his time as a very scholarly man - and was deemed by some to be the embodiment of Plato's "Philosopher King". Add to that the fact that he was facing very real practical threats (and had for a time been a prisoner of the Sultan) and defending Christendom from Islamic imperialism, and his opinions are very relevant indeed to the world situation today. The quote itself may not have been central to the Pope's argument, but it highlighted in unequivocal terms the issues that Pope was raising about the consonance of Faith and Reason, and was a necessary challenge not only to Western secularists, but also to the Muslim conception of God as pure abstract Will unalligned with Reason.
Posted by: Dennis at Sep 20, 2006 12:39:49 PM
It seems to me that either the Pope wanted there to be a blowup, or he wanted there to be no blowup, or he didn't care one way or the other.
If he didn't care one way or the other, he's gavely imprudent.
If he wanted there to be a blowup, then his subsequent disavowal of the quotation was mighty weaselly.
If he wanted there to be no blowup, then Fr. Michel is pretty much correct.
Posted by: Tom K. at Sep 20, 2006 12:50:46 PM
"access to the 75 virgins"
In a thread last week there was a link to a great article on the various mistranslations in the Koran due to the fact that the original was written by Assyrian Christian scribes in Aramaic. It wasn't until years later that it was put into the brand-new written Arabic language. By that time, folks had forgotten what some Aramaic words, turns of phrases and sayings actually meant. [Remember the phrase "kick the bucket" that was in a recent Curial translation of a papal speech into English.] In addition there's the problem of diacritical marks, using a different vowel than the original,homophones with different meanings, etc.
"Virgins" - it is highly likely that it is lots of "raisins" that are awaiting Muslims in heaven and not virgins. Heaven to these desert-dwellers was like the garden of Eden with grapes and various kinds of fruits and vegetation. To this day, there are more variants (considering its smaller size) in the translations of the Koran than in our Bible.
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William F Buckley also chastizes the Pope's gaffe in a recent column. Some of his recent columns get me to think he's getting senile.
Posted by: Julia at Sep 20, 2006 1:03:35 PM
I think recent events offer us a good opportunity to reflect on the criticisms made against Pius XII by the author of Hitler's Pope, i.e., the proctologically challenged John Cornwell.
Should the Pope speak out against an evil even if many innocent persons will be killed in retaliation for your words?
And at some point down the road, an Islamic fundamentalist may have political control of a country and be both able and willing to harm those not of his persuasion. In such a case, should the Pope speak out when every indication is that such a ruler would retaliate by harming the innocent?
Posted by: L White at Sep 20, 2006 1:09:10 PM
Fr. Michel and the over sensitive secularists will only feel safe and assured if the U.N. gives it's approval.
Posted by: Marc at Sep 20, 2006 1:12:55 PM
""Virgins" - it is highly likely that it is lots of "raisins" that are awaiting Muslims in heaven and not virgins. Heaven to these desert-dwellers was like the garden of Eden with grapes and various kinds of fruits and vegetation."
I can't help but to chuckle at the idea of a moslem going to heaven expecting to find lots of virgins to satisfy his desires and finding only raisins instead. Bummer! :)
"Should the Pope speak out against an evil even if many innocent persons will be killed in retaliation for your words?"
I think comparing Pious XII and Benedict is pointless, as they faced very different situations. Pious XII was in the middle of an open war, in a continent already in the hands of the enemy. Speaking out against the goverment was not the wisest thing to do at that moment in history. That's not Benedict's case.
Despite the muslim threats, we are not in an open war against them, so there's still time to speak out against them to avoid being 'assimilated'. This seems to be what Benedict is doing, and it doesn't mean that Pious was wrong for doing something different.
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